RE: PFWG-ISSUE-348: Consider renaming (now actually 'deprecating' in ARIA 1.1) role="presentation" to avoid avoid author confusion

Role=layout just came up on a thread about layout tables on html. I kind of like that.

When I hear designers (and some authors/developers) talk about the way a page looks, I hear "layout" much more often than than "presentation."  I hear computer scientists, spec writers, and more experienced devs talk about content/presentation or model/view/controller.

Have we made a conscious choice about which of these is our audience?

How about
<img role="decoration">
To remove elements without children from aapi mappings.

<table role="layout">
To remove semantics and aapi mappings from elements with children, without impacting the children (other than children that would be invalid without the parent, such as <tr> and <li>)



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Subject: RE: PFWG-ISSUE-348: Consider renaming (now actually 'deprecating' in  ARIA   1.1) role="presentation" to avoid avoid author confusion

>> role=""

Oh please. Please.  Please, do NOT repeat the alt="" workaround again...

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Subject: Re: PFWG-ISSUE-348: Consider renaming (now actually 'deprecating' in ARIA 1.1) role="presentation" to avoid avoid author confusion

On Jan 30, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com> wrote:

> So would "" be a direct mirror of the role presentation? Meaning that it does exactly the same thing?

Just to clarify. This is an item for discussion. Nothing is decided...
But yes, that was my intention. role="" would be a synonym for role="presentation"

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