- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:12:21 -0500
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
04 Feb 2014
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Attendees
Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Bryan_Garaventa, cyns
Regrets
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
clown
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Meeting time
2. [5]1.1 ISSUES and ACTIONS:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23
3. [6]issue-481
4. [7]issue-532
5. [8]issue-583
6. [9]issue-612
7. [10]issue-618
8. [11]issue-635
9. [12]issue-441
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 04 February 2014
<scribe> scribenick: clown
<scribe> agenda: this
Meeting time
JS: Is this a good meeting time?
CS: Good for me, although I am 15 minutes late.
... But, doesn't seem good for David.
... For me, it must be after 10am PST
JS: it could be two hours earlier, but not on Tue.
CS: 10 on Thu
... an hour before now, or after, on Thu
JS: I can't do Wed.
... I can't do it 10am - 11:45am on Thu (EST)
... I could out email, asking for times based on what we have
said so far.
... Any of those times good for you Bryan?
BG: All these times are good for me.
JS: I will send out an email today or tomorrow.
1.1 ISSUES and ACTIONS:
[14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23
JS: url to the uaig 1.1. issues.
issue-481
issue-481?
<trackbot> issue-481 -- aria-live removal events should or must
happen before object removal -- open
<trackbot> [15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/481
[15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/481
CS: Seems reasonable. Propose actions for myself and David to
see if we already do this.
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthis to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Cynthis'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users%3E.
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1368 - Investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in ie apropos issue-481. [on Cynthia
Shelly - due 2014-02-11].
<scribe> ACTION: David to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Error finding ' David'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
[20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users%3E.
<scribe> ACTION: davidb to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Error finding ' davidb'. You can review and register
nicknames at <[22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
[22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users%3E.
<scribe> ACTION: David_Bolter to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Error finding ' David_Bolter'. You can review and
register nicknames at
<[24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
[24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users%3E.
action-1368?
<trackbot> action-1368 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate
implementation of aria-live region events in ie apropos
issue-481. -- due 2014-02-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[25]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1368
[25] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1368
issue-532
issue-532?
<trackbot> issue-532 -- UAIG section 5.4 requires user agents
to support aria-described by but section 5.6.1.2 makes it
optional -- open
<trackbot> [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/532
[26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/532
CS: let's check to see if this is still true.
... It says must now.
JS: what says must?
CS: the link. It doesn't say MAY. It says MUST.
JS: So, this issues is obsoletel.
Resolution: Close issue-532
issue-583
issue-583?
<trackbot> issue-583 -- Elements that are descendants of an
element having aria-activedescendant should not all be
focusable -- open
<trackbot> [27]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/583
[27] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/583
action-1222?
<trackbot> action-1222 -- David Bolter to Look into ISSUE-583,
and think about section 4.3, step 4A to see if that answers the
question. -- due 2013-05-16 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1222
[28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1222
For any element with an ID attribute, where the element is a
descendant of an element with the aria-activedescendant
attribute, apply the following accessibility API states to the
target to ensure the object is accessible:
Focusable, if the element also has a WAI-ARIA
[29]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#def_role
[29] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#def_role
CS: this looks like it is fixed.
JS: We all decided back in September that the UAIG was fine in
this regard.
BS: I can see why you would need a role to make the AD
focusable.
JS: I will contact Rich and see if he agrees.
... I should bring up at the next caucus call what we are doing
about a 1.1 UAIG and its 1.1 issues and actions.
issue-612
issue-612?
<trackbot> issue-612 -- Review ia2/atk rule in group position.
should this really determine level based on aria-owns chain.
see uaig:
[30]http://www.w3.org/wai/pf/aria-implementation/#mapping_addit
ional_position and test case 69:
[31]https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/testharness/testresults?tes --
open
[30] http://www.w3.org/wai/pf/aria-implementation/#mapping_additional_position
[31] https://www.w3.org/wai/pf/testharness/testresults?tes
<trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/612
[32] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/612
[33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite
_id=2&testcase_id=69
[33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=2&testcase_id=69
[34]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499917
[34] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499917
<scribe> ACTION: Joseph to add text back into UAIG regarding
computing implicit level information when a tree is built out
of aria-owns relationships. [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1370 - Add text back into uaig
regarding computing implicit level information when a tree is
built out of aria-owns relationships. [on Joseph Scheuhammer -
due 2014-02-11].
action-1370?
<trackbot> action-1370 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Add text back
into uaig regarding computing implicit level information when a
tree is built out of aria-owns relationships. -- due 2014-02-11
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[36]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1370
[36] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1370
issue-618
issue-618?
<trackbot> issue-618 -- MSAA selection event mapping for single
selection case when item becomes unselected -- open
<trackbot> [37]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/618
[37] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/618
CS: This looks like it's mine.
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to investigate what IE does for single
selection container when item becomes unselected, and create a
test case (issue-618). [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1371 - Investigate what ie does for
single selection container when item becomes unselected, and
create a test case (issue-618). [on Cynthia Shelly - due
2014-02-11].
action-1371?
<trackbot> action-1371 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate what ie
does for single selection container when item becomes
unselected, and create a test case (issue-618). -- due
2014-02-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[39]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1371
[39] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1371
issue-635
issue-635?
<trackbot> issue-635 -- Determine if uaig mappings for rowgroup
are correct -- open
<trackbot> [40]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/635
[40] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/635
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to create a test case, if there is
none, to test the rowgroup role [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1372 - Create a test case, if there
is none, to test the rowgroup role [on Cynthia Shelly - due
2014-02-11].
action-1372?
<trackbot> action-1372 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case,
if there is none, to test the rowgroup role -- due 2014-02-11
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[42]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1372
[42] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1372
issue-441
issue-441?
<trackbot> issue-441 -- Normative UAIG requirements for what
UAs do when aria-posinset or aria-setsize is provided
explicitly on some, but not all, elements within a set. --
raised
<trackbot> [43]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/441
[43] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/441
CS: I think the first step is to create test case, and see what
happens now.
<scribe> ACTION: cynthia to create a test case for when
aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly on some
but not all elements. [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1373 - Create a test case for when
aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly on some
but not all elements. [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2014-02-11].
action-1373?
<trackbot> action-1373 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case
for when aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly
on some but not all elements. -- due 2014-02-11 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[45]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1373
[45] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1373
toipc: issue-473
issue-473?
<trackbot> issue-473 -- Math mapping to AAPI -- raised
<trackbot> [46]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/473
[46] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/473
[47]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13647
[47] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13647
JS: issues says it relates to an html bug
... The bug is listsed as "verified invalid".
CS: I don't think is a UAIG issue.
... This is a PF issue to coordinate with another WG.
... We should send an email to Michael about this.
JS: I could bring it up at the caucus call.
CS: I'm going to change the assoiciated product to spec
reviews.
JS: I think this has something to do with deprecating the ARIA
math role.
... And just using MathML instead.
... If so, this doesn't have much to do with the UAIG.
... Unless it is the separate html/uaig document.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cynthia to create a test case for when
aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly on some
but not all elements. [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia to create a test case, if there is none,
to test the rowgroup role [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia to investigate what IE does for single
selection container when item becomes unselected, and create a
test case (issue-618). [recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Cynthis to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[52]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Joseph to add text back into UAIG regarding
computing implicit level information when a tree is built out
of aria-owns relationships. [recorded in
[53]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: David to investigate implementation of aria-live
region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[54]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: David_Bolter to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: davidb to investigate implementation of
aria-live region events in IE apropos issue-481. [recorded in
[56]http://www.w3.org/2014/02/04-aapi-minutes.html#action04]
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