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RE: indicating a context menu

From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:16:16 +0100
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
CC: W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Message-ID: <8EA44C66E2911C4AB21558F4720695DC5E6CB5E66C@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp>
Hi Steve,

context menu: Shift+F10
popup (menu): Alt + Arrow Down 

and your question is what to use when?

This seems to be not so clear for spec says

"aria-haspopup (property): Indicates that the element has a popup context menu or sub-level menu"

So the clash is that we have (in case of link elements) contradicting keyboard specs for invoking context menu, right?

Regards
Stefan



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Montag, 13. Dezember 2010 17:59
To: Schnabel, Stefan
Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH
Subject: Re: indicating a context menu

Hi Stefan,

it being on a link is not the issue, what is is that there is no clear
way to indicate that there is a context menu available as a against a
popup menu each of which have different keyboard interactions
associated with them.

best regards
steve

On 13 December 2010 16:43, Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Well, AFIK the context menu is a service by the User Agent for that particular HTML element,
> shouldn't be this discussed between UA and AT?
>
> UA should announce to the AT, that it has stuffed the link element with a context menu.
> Maybe a clear case for some of the AIA members http://www.atia.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3752 to discuss..
>
> Regards
> Stefan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
> Sent: Montag, 13. Dezember 2010 17:37
> To: Schnabel, Stefan
> Cc: W3C WAI-XTECH
> Subject: Re: indicating a context menu
>
> Hi Stefan,
> what I have is a link that has a custom context menu.
>
>> <a aria-haspopup="true">
>>
>> Here, aria-haspopup is superfluous for every <A> has a context menu (invoked with Shift+F10 in e.g. IE and FF)
>
> is it superfluous? as there is no indication via accessibility APIs
> that a standard link has a context menu.
>
>
> regards
> stevef
>
> On 13 December 2010 16:27, Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com> wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> do you mean
>>
>> <span role="link">
>>
>> Here, I suppose, we need
>>
>> <span role="link" aria-haspopup="true">
>>
>> To indicate a (custom) context menu ..
>>
>>
>>>>> how does one let users know that they have tu use a particular keystroke
>>
>> This could be e.g. an ARIA 2.0 extension, we call this "Tutor Messages". Could use an (to be invented) "aria-help" property for that or role extensibility.
>>
>>
>> Or do you mean
>>
>> <a aria-haspopup="true">
>>
>> Here, aria-haspopup is superfluous for every <A> has a context menu (invoked with Shift+F10 in e.g. IE and FF)
>>
>> Regards
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Steve Faulkner
>> Sent: Montag, 13. Dezember 2010 15:20
>> To: W3C WAI-XTECH
>> Subject: indicating a context menu
>>
>> What is the mest way to indicate the presence of a context menu on a
>> link using ARIA?
>>
>> aria-haspopup seems inadequate for the task.
>>
>> how does one let users know that they have tu use a particular
>> keystroke (http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#popupmenu)
>>
>> --
>> with regards
>>
>> Steve Faulkner
>> Technical Director - TPG Europe
>> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
>>
>> www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
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>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG Europe
> Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
>
> www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
> Web Accessibility Toolbar -
> http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
>



-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
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