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Re: Discussion: Accessibility Issues Procedure

From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:19:36 +1000
Message-ID: <2c0e02830907270119u7fc0254al1de990dd4aa17f89@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>, Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, William Loughborough <wloughborough@gmail.com>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, WHATWG <whatwg@lists.whatwg.org>
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Ian Hickson<ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Foliot wrote:
>> Ian Hickson wrote:
>> (And while you looking, can you also point me to the official consensus
>> note that suggested that deferring a captioning solution with video to
>> 'the next version' was met with approval?
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0667.html |
>> http://john.foliot.ca )
>
> No such consensus exists at this time. (No consensus to the contrary
> exists either.)

Since one of my emails is being quoted, let me explain how I came to
the conclusion that I stated in that email.

In December last year there was a discussion about approaches to how
to include captions with HTML5 video. The discussion included Ian
posting this email:
http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-December/017966.html

In this email he stated:
"I think we should eventually provide the APIs mentioned above under
case 1 since they would help bridge the gap between the two types of
timed text solutions, but as noted above I think we should wait until
implementations are more mature before extending the API further."

This to me meant that we needed to experiment with the different
approaches in order to find a good means of approaching a technical
solution to the captioning issues.

Further, in this email
(http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-July/021142.html)
6 months later in reply to a similar discussion around a proposal that
Greg Millam from Google made in February, Ian says:
"I think this proposal is a good direction to go in. However, I think
it is still too early to put this in HTML5, and based on the quality
of  implementations so far, it will probably still be too early by the
time HTML5 goes to last call in October.

However, I think something similar to what you propose (which is
similar, though more complex, to what Silvia proposed also) is what we
should aim for once we are ready to add more features."

This led to me to the assumption that captions won't be part of the
first "version" of HTML5. I asked for clarification of this
understanding of mine of "versions" in a later email
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0142.html ,
which Ian explained in
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0145.html .

This is how I came to write the email that I wrote at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0667.html.

How hard and fast is the October deadline for Last Call? I would like
to get some accessibility features for video included before then!

Best Regards,
Silvia.
Received on Monday, 27 July 2009 08:20:32 UTC

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