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Re: drag'n'drop is grab'n'drop for non-visual users

From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@utoronto.ca>
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:15:51 -0500
Message-ID: <496375A7.9020607@utoronto.ca>
To: Chris Blouch <cblouch@aol.com>
CC: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, "w3c-wai-pf@w3.org" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>

Gregory wrote:

> proposed keystrokes for action:
>
> "grab" = Modifier/ Control / Command / Whatever plus g
> "drop" = Modifier/ Control / Command/ Whatever plus d
>   

We discussed using mod+g for "grab" at a DHTML style guide meeting, but 
it was noted that mod+g is strongly associated with "find again".  We 
didn't want to overload its meaning.

In a similar vein, it is undesirable to overload mod+x, mod+c and mod+v 
-- not all drag-and-drop operations are cut/copy/paste.  One of the ARIA 
drop effects is "make a link".  Another is "execute"; for example, 
dragging a sound file and dropping it on a media player, where the 
intended operation is to "open" the file.  Thus, it's also undesirable 
to overload the standard cut/copy/paste keystrokes for all drag-and-drop 
operations.  While drag-and-drop is a common set of mouse gestures, the 
user's goal varies from context to context.

We settled on something that is neutral:  mod+m to indicate both that 
the set of draggables has been fixed ("start the drag"), and, when 
focussed on a drop target, to indicate that it is be dropped there.

-- 
;;;;joseph

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