RE: [DHTML Style Guide] Tablist: why alt+del?

Victor makes a very good point.  We do consider these as guidelines and
not standards.  I guess if someone wanted to implement various options
as menu items they certainly could.
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Victor Tsaran
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:41 PM
> To: David Bolter; Joseph Scheuhammer
> Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org; earl johnson
> Subject: RE: [DHTML Style Guide] Tablist: why alt+del?
> 
> 
> Guys,
> We are overloading these widgets with so many keystrokes that 
> I am afraid we will never get them working. We have to be 
> considerate of AT keystrokes, browser keystrokes etc. A good 
> example is ALT+DELETE (JAWS uses this for reading the 
> position of an active cursor). Do you expect they will give that up?
> Why don't we simply offer very basic keyboard support and 
> make all the auxilary functions, such as deleting tabs, 
> thrugh a context menu?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David Bolter
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:05 AM
> To: Joseph Scheuhammer
> Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org; earl johnson
> Subject: Re: [DHTML Style Guide] Tablist: why alt+del?
> 
> 
> One guess is that if the user is experimenting with Control+W 
> to see if it works...  they'll close their window if the 
> DHTML author hasn't implemented swallowed that event (since 
> it bubbles).
> 
> cheers,
> David
> 
> Joseph Scheuhammer wrote:
> >
> > The current keystroke proposal for tablist is:
> > http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#tabpanel
> >
> > If a tabpanel is "delete-able", the suggested keystroke is 
> "Alt+Del". 
> > I have forgotten the reason for that, and, now, it strikes 
> me as odd.
> >
> > Other tablists (for example, desktop tablists) where a tabpanel is 
> > "delete-able", the usual gesture is "Control+W" (Command+W on Mac).
> > Since this is already common practice, I suggest that it be 
> used for 
> > dhtml tablists as well.
> >
> > Was there a reason why "Control+W" was not available?
> >
> > Note that this is important to get "right" since we are trying to 
> > consolidate the keystrokes for tablist and accordion.  At 
> the moment, 
> > the accordion guidelines make no mention of deletion, although I 
> > anticipate some one will design an accordion that way, and 
> it should 
> > use the same keystroke.
> > http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#accordion
> >
> > (Aside:  FWIW, "Alt+Del" appears only once in the style guide).
> >
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