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Re: conflation of issues or convergence of interests?

From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:34:03 +0100
Message-ID: <46AB45CB.5050601@splintered.co.uk>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
CC: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org

Anne van Kesteren wrote:

>>> If the new language requires a completely different architecture it 
>>> is unlikely to be adopted. Or maybe it is adopted, but the 
>>> accessibility features are not being put to use. I think it will be 
>>> easier for features to become adopted if they don't require a lot of 
>>> rethinking, but rather can be incrementally deployed. I think that's 
>>> one of the reasons it's important to look how authors are solving 
>>> problems now.
>> Providing fallback inside the new proposed <video> and <audio> 
>> elements is no different from fallback inside <object>, so 
>> architecture-wise I see no difference.
> I thought the question was what sites were using. Not what HTML 4 provides.

My response was directly related to your "different architecture" 
statement, assuming that you meant "architecture of the language" rather 
than "architecture of current practices". But it seems that you were 
indeed referring to the latter. Again, this seems disingenuous to 
me...let's not look at HTML 4's language constructs when devising new 
elements, but rather look at how current sites have (ab)used the markup 
at this point in time. As was noted before, even if a large percentage 
of sites/authors here and now don't take advantage of an HTML 4 language 
feature, that doesn't necessarily mean that the feature should be 
scrapped...but I guess that's really the crux of this argument.

Patrick H. Lauke
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