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Re: reCAPTCHA comparison with google's new account form

From: Ben Maurer <bmaurer@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
cc: wai-xtech@w3.org, Chris Blouch <cblouch@aol.com>, Colin McMillen <mcmillen@cs.cmu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64-044.0707131637430.14738@unix36.andrew.cmu.edu>

Hey,

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:

> ben wrote, quote:
>> We don't do anything to ask for quicktime. We simply insert and
>> <DEFANGED_embed> element into the document. Could you take a
>> look at:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount
>>
>> And click the audio button under Word Verification. Is this any better?
>>
>> Does anybody have suggestions as to the best thing to do from
>> the html side?
> unquote
>
> aloha, ben!
>
> one of the things about the google new account form, is that the
> edit box informs one that one must either enter the numbers they
> see or the ones they hear, WITHOUT making mention that the
> mechanism for doing so lies outside of the edit box; again the
> containing TABLE would greatly benefit from the addition of a
> descriptive summary, which instructs the user that the audio
> captcha will ONLY play if one activates the image associated
> with the audio CAPTCHA.

So we sort of do this too -- we make the controls for reCAPTCHA come 
*after* the text box itself. I think we should see if we can fix this.

> as for the HTML side of things, i still think you could achieve the same
> functionality by using the BUTTON form control defined in HTML 4.01 for
> the tier of alternatives and assistance -- if they were actual, rather
> than pseudo, form buttons, then they would not only be included in the
> tab-navigation, but would also appear in lists of form controls -- i
> discussed the details of the use BUTTON in my first note about reCAPTCHA
> accessibility, archived at:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2007May/0048.html
>
> hope this is of assistance -- would you like me to mock up a dummy
> form, integrating everything discussed so far?  would that be of
> assistance, at least from a comparative point of view -- markup
> a reCAPTCHA form to ascertain what works and what doesn't with
> which user agents and what assistive technology...

I think that'd help a lot. Obviously, we're going to need to get the 
mockup back to a point where it has the same visual appearence as today, 
but I think it might help us to have an accessible starting point.

We'd really appreciate any time you can spend coming up with this.

-b
Received on Friday, 13 July 2007 23:40:13 GMT

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