- From: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:31:41 -0400
- To: wai-xtech@w3.org
- Cc: David MacDonald <befree@magma.ca>, Gez Lemon <gez.lemon@gmail.com>
At 9:19 PM +0200 8/24/06, Christophe Strobbe wrote: >Hi Gregory, > >At 18:31 24/08/2006, Gregory Rosmaita wrote: > >>this is a reaction to a thread on the w3c-wai-gl emailing list, >>which starts at (long URI warning) >>[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0124.html] >> >>although this thread began on a specific list (the guidelines >>group's list, to be precise) i am addressing this post to ALL >>WAI working groups via the XTECH list, as the issue of use >>of the Q element to denote actual quotations is a >>cross-working group matter... >> >>in the post cited above, david macdonald wrote: >> >>quote >>I think we can easily address that concern. We introduce a failure technique >>that says: >> >>Failure: placing spaces between quotation marks and the text they are >>surrounding. >> >>Then we could use Cynthia's suggestion, and make using quotation marks a >>sufficient way to mark up quotations, *and* we could make sufficient >>technique that says using the <Q> element with CSS would be another way >>to meet the SC. >>unquote >> >>i can hardly believe that such an idea - that use of Q is optional >>and use of punctuation marks acceptable - is gaining momentum on >>the w3c-wai-gl list... > >I wouldn't say that this idea is "gaining momentum" but rather >"floating around". >I believe it refers to the last call comment 695: >http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/issue-tracking/viewdata_individual.php?id=695 >. > >>we shouldn't be advising authors to use hacks >>such as character entities to denote quotations (...) >> >>the Q element is more than merely a textual marker which replaces >>the character entity " or actual quotation marks >>(...) >>please WCAG, don't throw Q out with the bathwater, > >What the WCAG WG discussed in last week's telecon was something >different: >because IE does support Q but does not render quotation marks >automatically, the proposal was to >- add quotation marks manually around Q elements; >- add CSS rules to suppress auto-generated quotes in browers >that do render quotation marks for Q elements (Opera, Firefox, >Mozilla). > >I hope this proposal is less controversial. [data mining drudge, here - Al] where one can find this in the record of that meeting: http://www.w3.org/2006/08/17-wai-wcag-irc#T21-09-48 Maybe a good, recent, relevant place to enter the thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006JulSep/0155.html Al >Best regards, > >Christophe Strobbe > > > >-- >Christophe Strobbe >K.U.Leuven - Departement of Electrical Engineering - Research Group >on Document Architectures >Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 - 3001 Leuven-Heverlee - BELGIUM >tel: +32 16 32 85 51 >http://www.docarch.be/ > >Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm
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