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Re: [XAG change request] Edit problem statement

From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:24:27 -0400
Message-ID: <3D0F7ADB.3050603@w3.org>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
CC: DPawson@rnib.org.uk, wai-xtech@w3.org

Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 DPawson@rnib.org.uk wrote:
>   Amendment to proposed text:
>   Delete 'as possible'.
> I am happy either way.
> I put it in because we can't really guarantee accessibility, we can only make
> it easier, and I would like that fact to be more obvious.

Text from section 3 of UAAG 1.0 [1]:

"Note: Conformance to the requirements of this document is expected 
to be a strong indicator of accessibility, but it is neither a 
necessary nor sufficient condition for ensuring the accessibility of 
software. Some software may not conform to this document but still 
be accessible to some users with disabilities. Conversely, some 
software may conform to this document but still be inaccessible to 
some users with disabilities. Some requirements of this document may 
not benefit some users for some content, but the requirements are 
expected to benefit many users with disabilities, for general 
purpose content. For more information, please see the sections on 
known limitations of this document and restricted functionality and 

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-UAAG10-20010912/conformance#Conformance

> (the rest of my message can be safely ignored, e.g. by people who don't have
> time to waste on idle thoughts).
> In my opinion we have suffered a bit from people thinking that WCAG
> guarantees accessibility, and then extrapolating the idea that level-A is a
> good place to stop worrying too much. If we were stronger on the idea that
> access is a continuum like usability or style, rather than a binary test we
> might do better in convincing people to go as far as they can. (In my view
> accessibility is part of the same continuum as usability, but some people
> concentrate on usability for folks with disabilities who do things
> differently as users)
> I liked Joe Clark's quote of Dave Winer, as recorded in
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2002AprJun/0714
> Chaals
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 DPawson@rnib.org.uk wrote:
>   Amendment to proposed text:
>   > This document specifies requirements for XML languages to
>   > ensure that people
>   > can create documents in a given XML language which are as
>   > accessible as
>   > possible to people with disabilities, who use a variety of different
>   > techniques and tools to access the Web.
>   Delete 'as possible'.
>   regards DaveP
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