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Re: [webwatch] Jaws and radiobuttons

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:40:02 -0500
Message-Id: <200201131740.MAA3891602@smtp2.mail.iamworld.net>
To: wai-tech-comments@w3.org
Cc: Kelly Ford <kelly@kellford.com>
[Here Kelly Ford provides a good, user-friendly peek at where we are on label
information for form controls.  Note that in table cells, it is the yet more
primitive TITLE attribute that works most universally in screen readers, not
even anything as scientific/special-purpose as LABEL.  - Al]

Catherine,

There are at least two factors at play here.  First is whether or not the
web page in question has used some coding to give the radio buttons names in
a technique supported by screen readers and the technologies they use to
develop their page views.  The first choice is to use a label tag.  Second
is whether the version of the screen reader in question supports using the
tag.  If either of these factors is not met, screen readers will fall back
on other techniques which rely more on making decisions about text placement
to give names to things like radio buttons.  This is when you start getting
text read from other parts of the screen that frequently makes no sense.

I'll have to go back and check which versions of JAWS, earlier than 4.0,
correctly work with radio buttons that have label tags.  As an experiment
you can try visiting
<http://www.tracecenter.org/search/>http://www.tracecenter.org/search/ and see
what your
version of JAWS reads for the radio buttons.

Kelly


----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Turner" <cturne@essex.ac.uk>
To: <webwatch@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [webwatch] Jaws and radiobuttons


> What I mean is, when I'm in forms mode on a radiobutton I hear information
> from other parts of the page which are nothing to do with the radiobutton
> before I hear anything about the radiobutton.
>
> Catherine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@home.com>
> To: <webwatch@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [webwatch] Jaws and radiobuttons
>
>
> > I'm not sure what you are saying.  on some pages, I only hear radio
> > button.  on others, if I am in forms mode and up and down arrow through
> > the radio buttons, I hear the label of the button, the name of the
> > button which is radio button and then the state which of course is
> > checked.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Catherine Turner" <cturne@essex.ac.uk>
> > To: <webwatch@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:59 PM
> > Subject: [webwatch] Jaws and radiobuttons
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I don't think I've come across a web page where jaws (am using 3.7u)
> > will
> > read a radiobutton properly in forms mode.  What happens is when I'm in
> > forms mode on a radiobutton whenever I change the state of the
> > radiobutton
> > jaws always reads something else (what's above or before the
> > radiobutton)
> > before reading the radiobutton.
> >
> > Does this happen in all cases?  If not, is there a code reason which
> > determines whether it happens or not?  Or is it just something random
> > with
> > jaws?  Can anyone point me to a page where it doesn't happen?
> >
> > Catherine
> >
> >
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