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Minutes: User Agent telecon 1 Oct 2015

From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 14:23:54 -0500
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​User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference01 Oct 2015

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-irc>
Attendees
Presentjeanne, jim, gregRegretsChairjimScribeallanj
Contents

   - Topics <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#agenda>
      1. Announcements <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item01>
      2. 2.10.6 Navigation of Time-Based Media by Time
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item02>
      3. 2.10.7 Navigation of Time-Based Media by Semantics
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item03>
      4. 2.10.8 Video Contrast and Brightness
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item04>
      5. 2.11.1 Platform Text Input Devices:
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item05>
      6. 2.12.2 Operation With Any Device
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item06>
      7. 3.1.1 Text Entry Undo
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item07>
      8. 3.1.2 Settings Changes can be Reversed or Confirmed
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item08>
      9. New Guidelines group - use cases
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#item09>
   - Summary of Action Items
   <http://www.w3.org/2015/10/01-ua-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 01 October 2015

http://w3c.github.io/UAAG-Implementations/Implementations-by-feature

<scribe> scribe: allanj

Open Item 1
Announcements

Jeanne on leave till Nov 30

UAAG Working Draft comments close 13 October 2015

close item 1

open item 2

Jim on vacation for next 2 weeks

<jeanne> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-uaag2-comments/
2.10.6 Navigation of Time-Based Media by Time

quicktime, real, and wmp allow this. JwPlayer, PayPal player and OZ player
all allow this

youtube player also

all of these allow relative units (5, 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds)

<Greg> It might be nice to say something like "For example, by sliding a
scroll bar (continuous scale) and by using a command to jump forward or
backwards a certain amount of time (relative units)"

add to intent
2.10.7 Navigation of Time-Based Media by Semantics

quicktime does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ja4u8_RGQ

youtube allows nav by chapter (section) they are highlighted in the timeline

jwplayer has chapter navigation
2.10.8 Video Contrast and Brightness

quicktime, real, and wmp

stand alone players

vlc does also

<allanj_>
http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/15-features-of-vlc-player-that-you-probably-dont-know-about/
2.11.1 Platform Text Input Devices:

<allanj_> all seem to work with what ever keyboard, braille, onscreen, etc.

there may be some instances, applications, that don't work

<Greg> I have noticed that on Android apps can provide their own on-screen
keyboards, as far as I can tell refusing to use the one's you've installed
at the system level. If a browser does that, it will fail this SC.
2.12.2 Operation With Any Device

https://support.apple.com/kb/PH13833?locale=en_US

https://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/enabling-full-keyboard-access-mac-090053716.html

<Greg> For example, are there any functions you cannot do in browser X on
platform Y with the available on-screen keyboards? For Chrome on Android,
can you "go to the next link" using the touchscreen? Or is "go to the next
link" a command on desktop computers that simply isn't supported on
touchscreen-only devices?

<scribe> New number is 2.11.1

chrome, ie, firefox, and safari
3.1.1 Text Entry Undo

on desktop there is undo. no undo on mobile
3.1.2 Settings Changes can be Reversed or Confirmed

IE has reset,

firefox has refresh. removes all extenstions sets browser to default
settings

chrome has reset

<Greg> It does not appear that Chrome lets you override author colors any
more.

<Greg> Jim just verified that in Firefox you can adjust settings to always
use white text on a white background, making the Settings page unusable.
There does not seem to be any Undo for this change.

<Greg> Thus, Firefox fails this one.

firefox fails, no confirmation, no Undo button, can set text to white on
white. settings page is html so all settings vanish
New Guidelines group - use cases

- WCAG and UAAG are different sides of the screen related to accessibility

- browsers meet WCAG by default - need fail examples

- mobile use cases for browsers

- low vision use cases for browsers

examples in our document are good, but there are too many

need to distill, or combine

meetings will reconvene on Oct 22.

trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items[End of minutes]​

-- 
Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315    fax: 512.206.9264  http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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