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Minutes: User Agent telecon 10 Sept 2015

From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 13:41:49 -0500
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source: http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html
User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 10 Sep 2015

See also: IRC log <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-irc>
Attendees
Presentgreg, kim, jeanneRegretsChairjimScribeallanj
Contents

   - Topics <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#agenda>
      1. 2.7.1 Customize Display of Controls for User Interface Commands,
      Functions, and Extensions
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item01>
      2. 2.8.1 Adjustable Time Limits (old 2.9.1)
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item02>
      3. 2.9.1 Three Flashes or Below Threshold (old 2.10.1)
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item03>
      4. 2.9.2 three flashes (old 2.10.2)
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item04>
      5. 2.10.1 Time-Based Media Load-Only
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item05>
      6. 2.10.2 Execution Placeholder (old 2.9.2)
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item06>
      7. 2.10.3 Execution Toggle
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item07>
      8. 2.10.4 Adjustable Playback Rate for Prerecorded Content
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item08>
      9. 2.10.5 Stop/Pause/Resume Time-Based Media
      <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#item09>
   - Summary of Action Items
   <http://www.w3.org/2015/09/10-ua-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 10 September 2015

http://w3c.github.io/UAAG-Implementations/Implementations-by-feature
2.7.1 Customize Display of Controls for User Interface Commands, Functions,
and Extensions

<scribe> scribe: allanj

don't know of any UAs that do this. some extensions allow reconfiguring.

UAs allow hiding and revealing toolbars and putting them in different orders

opera has a keyboard control mapper for changing all opera keystrokes

<Greg> Customize Firefox controls, buttons and toolbars | Firefox Help

<Greg>
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-firefox-controls-buttons-and-toolbars

apple iOS has a gesture mapper for the OS

<Greg> "The menu button new fx menu gives you convenient access to your
favorite Firefox features. Don't like the default arrangement? It's easy to
customize."

<Greg> Firefox does have a Restore Defaults button.

does IOS gesture changes modify everything - VO gestures, author gestures
for apps and browsers?

IE has restore setting to default

<Greg> Customize Your Menus in Firefox
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/6985/customize-your-menus-in-firefox/ "Would
you like a way to edit menus and remove the extra entries that you do not
use or need? Now you can with the Menu Editor extension for Firefox."

chrome customize toolbar
https://support.google.com/toolbar/answer/2392132?hl=en

<Greg> Menu Wizard :: Add-ons for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/ us current.

A. show - UA can show/hide menu bar, extension bars, and other UI bars

C. reposiition - UA can change order of extension bars, and other UI bars

B. simplify - hiding tool bars is simplify. FF extension to rearrange menu
items. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/

<Kim> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/customizable-shortcuts/

<Kim> customizable shortcuts for Firefox

D. assign keystrokes - opera has a keyboard control mapper for changing all
opera keystrokes

FF has customizable shortcuts for Firefox -
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/customizable-shortcuts/

<Greg> Swipe Safari Adds Tons of Configurable Gestures to Safari on iPhone
http://lifehacker.com/5911935/swipe-safari-adds-tons-of-configurable-gestures-to-safari-on-iphone
"For whatever reason the mobile version of Safari doesn't have the same
handy swipe gestures as its desktop counterpart. If you're looking to add
those same gestures to the your iPhone or iPad, Swipe Safari does just that
and...

<Greg> ...allows you to customize your gestures in a variety of ways."

summary

A. show - UA can show/hide menu bar, extension bars, and other UI bars (FF,
IE)

chrome - Proper Menubar -
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/proper-menubar/egclcjdpndeoioimlbbbmdhcaopnedkp?hl=en

B. simplify - hiding tool bars is simplify. (FF, IE). FF extension to
rearrange menu items.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/.
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/> IE can hide
toolbars, but not menu commands

C. reposiition - UA can change order of extension bars, and other UI bars
(IE, FF), for individual menu items - FF extension to rearrange menu items.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/.
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/>

D. assign keystrokes - opera has a keyboard control mapper for changing all
opera keystrokes. FF has customizable shortcuts for Firefox -
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/customizable-shortcuts/
also, extension to rearrange menu items.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/.
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/s3menu-wizard/>

Swipe Safari Adds Tons of Configurable Gestures to Safari on iPhone
http://lifehacker.com/5911935/swipe-safari-adds-tons-of-configurable-gestures-to-safari-on-iphone

E. Reset - IE and FF have restore to default.
2.8.1 Adjustable Time Limits (old 2.9.1)

gl: are there any time limits in the UAUI

js: clicking exit with a timer

gl: does anyone do this

ja: all just have a button with no timer

title on element - no timer on Chrome, FF. IE has 5 seconds. none are
adjustable
2.9.1 Three Flashes or Below Threshold (old 2.10.1)

don't know of any UA components that flash
2.9.2 three flashes (old 2.10.2)

don't know of any
2.10.1 Time-Based Media Load-Only

chrome - open plugin on request - anything with a plug in will not play
until user activates plugin

http://community.box.com/t5/Account-Information/How-To-Disable-Plugins-Add-Ons-Extensions-In-Multiple-Browsers/ta-p/19

chrome, safari, limited FF

ff has an always ask tools>options>applications select always ask in Action
column
2.10.2 Execution Placeholder (old 2.9.2)

chrome and ff have place holder,
2.10.3 Execution Toggle

turn off javascript, turn off flash, etc.

FF, Safari
2.10.4 Adjustable Playback Rate for Prerecorded Content

BBC player

http://support.panopto.com/documentation/viewing/variable-speed-playback-vsp

http://www.learningapi.com/2012/04/variable-speed-playback-html5-video-feature/

<Greg> But the demo at learningapi.com puts the onus on the web page to
enable variable-speed playback. You'd have to use Greasemonkey or
equivalent to modify pages to retroactively add this support.

http://www.w3.org/2010/05/video/mediaevents.html

http://lifehacker.com/5491852/enable-variable-speed-playback-in-youtube

chrome:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-controller/nffaoalbilbmmfgbnbgppjihopabppdk?hl=en

<Greg> Html5 Youtube Video Speed Controller :: Add-ons for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-uS/firefox/addon/youtubevideospeedcontroller/
"Html5 Youtube Video Speed Controller helps to change the playback speed of
html5 video on youtube."

enounce myspeed https://www.raymond.cc/blog/download/did/2987/
2.10.5 Stop/Pause/Resume Time-Based Media

animated gifs will stop with ESC key. anything else needs some kind of
control (off/stop button)

http://www.animatedgif.net/business/grapher_e0.gif

http://www.animatedgif.net/business/grapher_e0.gif

animated gifs only stop with ESC on IE

<Greg> Toggle animated GIFs :: Add-ons for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/toggle-animated-gifs/

<Greg> Firefox intentionally disabled the ability to stop animated gifs in
2012. 825486 – Escape no longer stops animated GIFs
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825486. Insert insulting term
here.

<Greg> Matthias Versen [:Matti] 2012-12-29 23:18:18 PST The is a intended
change from bug 614304: "ESC is now the same as hitting the stop button and
the stop button doesn't stop animated images"

<Greg> "More precisely, Esc now only has an effect when the stop button is
visible. The stop button is only visible while the main page is loading."

<Greg> "I created this ticket, but after reading the explanations I
understand the reasoning behind the change. More often, people are going to
be using web-based apps that want to trap the Escape key, and the old
functionality breaks the page as soon as Escape is hit. We can't have
Escape acting differently, because it violates the Law of Least
Astonishment."
Summary of Action Items [End of minutes]

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[image: http://www.tsbvi.edu] <http://www.tsbvi.edu>Jim Allan,
Accessibility Coordinator
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
voice 512.206.9315    fax: 512.206.9264  http://www.tsbvi.edu/
"We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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