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Re: Not sure that GL1 is actually done

From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:53:18 -0500
Message-ID: <CA+=z1Wmm4hW-sAjqAv85kRWe+w8UbQcSv-=G0CtmkBPtvKSgnw@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Richards, Jan" <jrichards@ocadu.ca>
Cc: WAI-ua <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Hmm,
I agree Jan.There are problems.

in the current draft
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2012/ED-IMPLEMENTING-UAAG20-20120322/

112 and 113 are identical (113 has an eg. but the sc wording is the same)
"The user can specify that content be rendered with an adjacent
indicator when unrendered alternative content is present. "

we have to go back to this version
http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2012/ED-IMPLEMENTING-UAAG20-20120306/
to see
1.1.2 Browse and Render:
When a rendered element has alternative content, the user can render
alternatives according to the following: (Level A) @@ 583
  *  synchronized alternatives for time-based media (e.g. captions,
audio descriptions, sign language) can be rendered at the same time as
their associated audio tracks and visual tracks, and
  *  non-synchronized alternatives (e.g. short text alternatives, long
descriptions) can be rendered as replacements for the original
rendered content.

Note: User agents are encouraged to also provide the ability to
display alternate content with, rather than replacing, the primary
content (e.g. as a pop-up, tooltip, or annotation).

and

1.1.3 Identify Presence of Unrendered Alternative Content:
The user can specify that content be rendered with an adjacent
indicator when unrendered alternative content is present (e.g. an icon
to indicate an image has a short text alternative).

I like your tersified version from your message on 23 June[1]. Tho it
seems the numbering is reversed on 112 and 113 (a nit).

I also think your 113 below could be a AA or AAA. If there is no
indicator will it totally break accessibility for a class of user. It
might slow some users down, but not break accessibility.

Jim
---------
Jan's message from 23 Jun 2011,  for your convenience.

On the call, we spent a bit of time looking at 1.1.2...I wonder if the
related group of SCs can be "tersified" as follows:

1.1.1 Default Rendering of Alternative Content (Minimum): For each
type of non-text content, the user can specify a type of alternative
content that, if present, will be rendered by default,. (Level A)
Note: Alternative content may be rendered together with the original
non-text content (e.g., turning video caption track on) or may replace
the original content (e.g., video with extended audio description
replacing original video).

1.1.2 Indicate Unrendered Alternative Content: The user can specify
that indicators be displayed when unrendered alternative content is
present for rendered content. (Level A)

1.1.3 Render Alternative Content: The user can choose to render any
types of alternative content that are present. (Level A)

1.1.4 Default Rendering of Alternative Content (Enhanced): For each
type of non-text content, the user can specify the cascade in which to
render different types of alternative content, in case preferred types
are not present. (Level AA)

1. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2011AprJun/0082.html

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Richards, Jan <jrichards@ocadu.ca> wrote:
> In the new editor's draft (http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2012/ED-UAAG20-20120322/), I see 1.1.2-4 marked DONE, but I don't know that my proposal was ever dealt with:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2011AprJun/0082.html
>
> The problem is that currently both 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 mention an adjacent indicator.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
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Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
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