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Re: Action-730 Revise GL 1.7, pay attention to current behavior and aspirational subpoints, (partial)

From: Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:07:44 -0700
Message-ID: <CAJeQ8SAaApu-8vntNVr2iFORjRM3K9A+z0HWEq-ucvFci32q3A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
Cc: WAI-ua <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Hi all,
This is how I remember the discussion.

There are three things that are key here.  They are level A.  The user
must be able to supply a style sheet to substitute for the author's
style sheet. If the user sheet fails return to the author's should be
possible.  Also, the user must be able to turn off all style provided
by the author and rely on the browser supplied style.  Saving style
sheets is less important for users, but may be important for
developers of user style for people with disabilities.

Sorry about being absent so long, I've been working on my user style
sheet generator.

Wayne

The pages tend to block this out well.



On 5/17/12, Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> wrote:
> Action-730 Revise GL 1.7, pay attention to current behavior and
> aspirational subpoints, adjust  IER and add where necessary
>
> No IER included, just SC.
>
> -----------
>
> we adjusted the wording of 1.7.1 during the telecon on 17May2012 -
> included in this message.
>
> no changes made
>
> 1.7.1 Support User Stylesheets:
> If the user agent supports a mechanism for authors to supply
> stylesheets, the user agent also
>
> provides a mechanism for users to supply stylesheets.
>
> ------
> The other SC present current SC, current UA behavior, proposed rewrites.
>
> current 1.7.2 Apply User Stylesheets:
>
> The user can turn on the use of user (Level A)
>
>     (a) the current page, or
>     (b) all pages on specified web sites, or
>     (c) all pages.
>
> current UA behavior for 1.7.2:
> IE, Opera: user can apply personal stylesheets for the entire UA (all
> top level viewports). -- c)
>
> ALL pages
> FF, chrome: need an extension (stylish, etc) -- b) all pages on
> specified website
> no known browser or extension allows a) the current page
>
> Proposed rewrite:
> eliminate a) the current page, do not write an AAA SC for this function.
>
> 1.7.2 Apply User Stylesheets:
>
> The user can turn on the use of user stylesheets (Level A)
>
>     (a) all pages on specified web sites, or
>     (b) all pages.
>
> -------
> 1.7.3 Author Style Sheets:
> The user can turn off the use of author (Level A)
>
>     (a) the current page, or
>     (b) all pages for which it is defined.
>
> current UA behavior for 1.7.3:
> IE , FF,  Opera: user can turn off author stylesheets on a per page basis
> Chrome: needs the developer extension to disable author style sheet
> FF and Chrome: the developer extension allows selecting author
> stylesheets on per page
>
> basis.
>
> proposed rewrite: eliminate b)  all pages for which it is defined.
>
> 1.7.3 Author Style Sheets:
> The user can turn off the use of author stylesheet on the current page
> (Level A)
>
> ---------------
>
> 1.7.4 Save copies of stylesheets:
>
> The user can save copies of the stylesheets referenced by the current
> page, so that they can
>
> edit and load them as user (Level AA)
>
> current UA behavior for SC 1.7.4
> FF & chrome - developer toolbar extension, user can edit/save author css
> IE, opera - no ability for user to save CSS from the UI. must view
> page source, find css link, paste in address bar, save results.
>
> Proposed: move to AAA. no current functionality. Only some browser can
> do this with an extension.
>
>
> -----
> the intent for 1.7.1-3 needs some work. the example presents a
> scenario that is not covered by the current SC. The IER or 1.7.4 will
> be created.
>
> propose: Update the REsources for 1.7.1-3 as follows.
>     Related Resources for Success Criterion 1.7.1, 1.7.2 & 1.7.3:
>         CSS 2 Recommendation: cascade weight rules
> http://simplyaccessible.com/article/custom-styles-for-ios/
> http://userstyles.org/ STylish for FF and Chrome
> http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ for FF and Chrome
>
> --
> Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator & Webmaster
> Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired
> 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756
> voice 512.206.9315    fax: 512.206.9264  http://www.tsbvi.edu/
> "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
>
>
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