- From: Kitch Barnicle <barnicle@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:18:27 -0600
- To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Attendance Chair: Jon Gunderson Scribe: Kitch Barnicle Present: Gregory Rosmaita David Poelhman Harvey Bingham Ian Jacobs Eric Hansen (joined at Issue 388) Review of Action Items Remove GR action item to contact Dolphin No other action items reported as completed. Implementation Report Not discussed on this call Open Issues Issues related to definitions will be addressed by sub group - Ian, Al, Jon and Eric. This subgroup will reach consensus and the submit to list. (Issues 321, 358, 359) Issue 361 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 4.14: List of options is too long / consider ease-of-use Name: Phill Jenkins Jon sent a proposal to the list to add a note to this checkpoint on 11/27. Resolved 361: accept Jon's proposal to add a note, subject to final edits by the editor (re: word confound) Skip issues 362, 363, 382, - waiting for action items or edits Issue 386 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 5.4: Move example to Note Name: Earl Johnson Resolved 386: This is considered a communication with other software issue, not a user interface issue. The working group believes this note is currently in the correct location. Issue 387 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 8.4: Where do labels come from? XML/HTML? Name: Earl Johnson IJ: Do we really mean an outline of text labels ? JG: we don't need that restriction GR; should recognize user's configuration (ie if images off, text should show up) IJ: how do you determine a label JG: the definition of labels needs to be clarified IJ: what if content is a video, what is the label for a video, how does an author specify DP: would video be considered a structural element IJ: it could be IJ: for content where there isn't clearly defined labels, what are we asking UA to generate from heuristics IJ: AMAYA will construct an outline view from headers, SVG, style sheets GR: shouldn't we be referencing 6.1 and 6.2 (access features) IJ: consider headings, it this case we want content in the outline rather than a label, but that isn't always the case IJ: acrobat viewer also does an outline view IJ: do we agree - we are eliminating the option of getting a text outline IJ: in some case you want the content itself and in others you want the label (e.g. form control label) JG: checkpoint is saying, give me a subject of what is there GR: do we have a definition of outline IJ: i believe that is what is being asked IJ: would should describe out expectations, can define perfectly - using labels should be a technique, UA may use something else IJ: take the word labels out of the checkpoint and describe our expectations Action IJ 387: Ian will propose new wording for check point 8.4 reflecting our discussion for later review by the group. In expressing the new check point avoid confusion between "content-type label" and "label" Issue 388 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 9.7: Raise priority to P1 Name: Earl Johnson Resolved: the working had discussed this issue in the past, and while we understand that this feature is highly desirable, it would not impede someone from using the user agent, although it may be difficult to use if the user has to keep re-configuring. Issue 389 (Second Last Call): Conformance: Hard to test conformance in an objective fashion Name: Greg Lowney IJ: propose I write to Greg Lowney for clarification - there may have been an misunderstanding. JG: it would help us if we had specific examples of places in the guidelines where the requirements were not clear JG: specifically ask him to review section 3 to see if it answers his questions. Action IJ 389: to follow up with Greg Lowney (see notes above) Issue 390 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 1.1: Overly broad, disagree with all-or-nothing approach Name: Greg Lowney Action IJ: one way to implement existing action item related to this is to delete checkpoint 1.3 and instead where we talk about input modes .. in conformance say that you have to implement keyboard. Issue 391 (Second Last Call): Checkpoint 1.1: Need clarification about no requirement to reimplement input methods. Name: Greg Lowney 391; pending action from Ian Next telecon- Thursday at regular time
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