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Re: [last call, S2] not color only in 8.2

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:27:06 -0500
Message-Id: <200011131656.LAA397823@smtp2.mail.iamworld.net>
To: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
At 11:16 AM 2000-11-13 -0500, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>Al Gilman wrote:
>> 
>> This requirement,
>> 
>> "Do not use color as the only distinguishing factor..."
>> 
>> does not belong in a note because it is a genuine accessibility concern and
it
>> is not implied otherwise.
>> 
>> Notes should only be used to state things that, on rereading the text of
the
>> checkpoints proper, is required already, but the note re-emphasized what
was
>> already there.
>> 
>> Otherwise it needs to move up into the checkpoint, out of the Note
category.
>
>Agreed. That's why the checkpoint states:
>  "offer at least three rendering options, including colors and fonts"
>
>This guarantees that color alone will not be used. 

That is not how I read this wording.  There is no guarantee from the present
wording you quote, that where color is offered it will not be the only
distinction employed.  It merely requires that somewhere among the options
color will be employed.  This is where Eric's preference for the singular
would
be of help.  The loophole here is the fact that it is the aggregate of all the
options which must in aggregate contain colors and fonts;  This does not imply
that the option which involves color will at the same time involve some other
formatting property such as font.

In other words "OK, that's what you meant, but not what you said."

Al

>The Note just backs it up.
>
> _ Ian
>
>
>> --
>> Usage in headers.  Comments in response to the last call request for
comments
>> have been classified S1, S2, or E based on the following rough scale:
>> 
>> S1: Substantive matter of the first (highest) criticality or importance to
the
>> mission of the document.  The standard set is ineffective, the document is
>> self
>> contradictory, etc.
>> 
>> S2: Substantive matter of a somewhat lower criticality.  The document is
hard
>> to comprehend, does not align well with related WAI documents, etc.
>> 
>> E: Editorial matters.  Not regarded as substantive.
>> 
>> Re:
>> 
>> User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 1.0
>> 
>> W3C Working Draft 23 October 2000
>> 
>>    This version:
>> 
>>
[9]<<http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/WD-UAAG10-20001023>http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/
WD-UAAG10-20001023><http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/W>http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/W
>> D-UAAG10-20001023
>
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