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RE: Accessibility of Documentation, checkpoint 11.1

From: Poehlman, David <David.Poehlman@usmint.treas.gov>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:51:16 -0400
Message-ID: <9B2C020EAA53D411A7FA00D0B74D6AA50160FC@wdc9200.usmint.treas.gov>
To: "'Jon Gunderson'" <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, barnicle@trace.wisc.edu
Cc: "'w3c-wai-ua@w3.org'" <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
by all means, this is often the place at which interaction with the software
begins and also that uponwhich much training is based.

I could live with that,.  What do other people think?

How about you Kitch, you have always taken an interest in documentation
issues.

Jon


At 11:52 AM 8/18/2000 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>Jon Gunderson wrote:
> >
> > I would prefer to define double-A conformance for checkpoint 11.1 and
see
> > if we get any comments during last call.  My justification for double-A
is
> > that if the user cannot easily access the documentation, they may not be
> > able to find out how to use the user agent or make adjustments to
improve
> > accessibility.  Therefore I feel we can hold the documentation to a
higher
> > standard in UAAG.
>
>How about the following relative expression of the checkpoint:
>
>   Provide a version of the product documentation that
>   conforms to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines
>   1.0 [WCAG10]. [Priority 1 for Level A conformance, Priority 2
>   for Level Double-A conformance, Priority 3 for Level Triple-A
>   conformance.]
>
>1) This isn't too long or complicated.
>2) The implication is that if you want to be a level Double-A
>    conforming UA, your documentation has to conform to WCAG 1.0
>    level A. If you want to be a Triple-AAA UA, your documentation
>    has to be Triple-AAA WCAG.
>
>    I think that the real implication there is that there will
>    never be any Triple-AAA user agents...
>
>3) The best documentation is no documentation (i.e., the
>    user interface is so good you don't need any)!
>
>  - Ian
>
>
> > Jon
> >
> > At 12:23 AM 8/18/2000 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> > >Well, I would vote for a relative priority as used in ATAG. It seems 
> odd to
> > >have a triple-A tool where the documentation has removed the absolute
> > >barriers, but not the significant impediments, to using the
documentation.
> > >
> > >Charles
> > >
> > >On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > >   Ian Jacobs wrote:
> > >   >
> > >   > "Hansen, Eric" wrote:
> > >
> > >   > > New:
> > >   > >
> > >   > > "11.1 Provide a version of the product documentation that 
> conforms to
> > >   > > level-A of Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 [WCAG10].
> > > [Priority 1]
> > >   > > Note: User agents may provide documentation in many formats, but
at
> > > least
> > >   > > one must conform to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0
> > > [WCAG10]."
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Note that I have only required level-A conformance. I don't
think
> > > that level
> > >   > > triple-A is appropriate at all; Priority 3 checkpoint "may" help
> > > people with
> > >   > > disabilities. Double-A conformance might be warranted.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > I think that we need to minimize such interpendencies.
> > >   >
> > >   > It's my opinion that we don't have to say this since to conform at
> > >   > all to WCAG 1.0 you must conform at least a level-A. However, if 
> people
> > >   > feel that saying level-A explicitly clarifies the minimal 
> requirement,
> > >   > I'm ok with this proposal.
> > >
> > >   I would go further to say that this is an editorial clarification
> > >   and I will add it to the next draft (with a note that the WG has
> > >   not confirmed this proposal). Since we have not specified to date
> > >   which particular level of WCAG conformance is required, it follows
> > >   that the minimal level is WCAG Level-A.
> > >
> > >   If there is any opposition to Level-A being the minimal level
> > >   of conformance for this checkpoint, please speak up.
> > >
> > >    _ Ian
>
>
>
>--
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