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Re: I18N last call comments on User Agent AccessibilityGuidelines1.0

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:01:22 -0600
Message-Id: <4.1.20000118095710.00d06380@staff.uiuc.edu>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Cc: "Martin J. Duerst" <duerst@w3.org>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
I think in the user agent area it is important for user to have a choice in
which alternative or primary content is rendered (including different sign
language tracks), but I don't think there should be any requirements that
the user agent perform langauge translations or other language specific
tasks.  The availability of language specific information seems to me to be
an WC and AT issue.

Jon


At 11:36 AM 1/16/00 -0500, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>Hmmm. Just a thought - how shoud we andle different sign languages? In
>Australia, the UK, and the USA we speak and write the same language (more or
>less - it is readily mutually comprehensible at any rate). But where a signed
>equivalent is provided (the news channel I used to watch on TV in Melbourne
>did this, and it is a reasonable possibility for the web now, although not
>common) how do users distinguish whether it is BSL, ASL or Auslan, which are
>not really mutually comprehensible to anything like the same extent? Surely
>the obvious mechanisms are those used for i18n.
>
>(I'm not sure where this eads us, except that I think we should be very
>careful about deciding that language is not an accessibility issue).
>
>Charles McCN
>
>On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>
>  "Martin J. Duerst" wrote:
>  > 
>  > At 08:35 1999/12/06 -0500, Ian Jacobs wrote:
>  > > "Martin J. Duerst" wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > Dear Working Group,
>  > > >
>  > > > Below please find the last call comments from the Internationalization
>  > > > (I18N) WG on the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 1.0.
>  
>  Hi Martin,
>  
>  Some followup on your comments. 
>  
>  The first comments you make refer to a checkpoint, since deleted,
>  on rendering according to natural language. At the face-to-face
>  meeting in December, we decided to delete the checkpoint since
>  we felt that "proper I18N rendering" was not an accessibility
>  issue. Refer to issue 140.
>  
>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/1999/12/ftf-19991209#issue-140
>  
>  In fact a comment you made after some clarifications seems to
>  suggest the same opinion:
>  
>     > But I'm not sure how much that makes sense in view of
>     > accessability.
>  
>  Thank you for your detailed comments about handling I18N
>  markup and HTTP information. This should be integrated
>  into a set of I18N guidelines for user agents.
>  
>   _ Ian
>  
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Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
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