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RE: wording of Checkpoint 7.5

From: Dick Brown <dickb@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:52:24 -0800
Message-ID: <5F68209F7E4BD111A5F500805FFE35B91AF0E16B@RED-MSG-54>
To: "'Jon Gunderson'" <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, User Agent Guidelines Emailing List <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
I definitely agree with Jon. Searching for rendered information is
reasonable, but beyond that we would be requiring additional features rather
than a level playing field.

Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Gunderson [mailto:jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 6:34 AM
To: User Agent Guidelines Emailing List
Subject: RE: wording of Checkpoint 7.5


In response to Denis:
I think the basic requirement are for searching should be for information
that is actually rendered by the user agent, no matter what the source.
Information that Denis mentions may not typically be rendered, could be
searched as an added feature and outlined in the techniques document.  Some
user agents though may allow the types of information that Denis mentions
to be rendered (through configuration).

I think we should limit the search to rendered information.
Jon


At 09:25 AM 1/7/00 -0500, Denis Anson wrote:
>I'd like to see the wording expanded to include things like the title
>attribute and summary attribute for tables, which are not, in fact,
rendered
>under "normal" situations.  Titles can be rendered when they are pointed
to,
>and summaries are not rendered at all, but I sure would want to be able to
>search on them!
>
>How would you find information stored in a title if you can't search on it?
>Just point to everything on the page, and hope it pops up some where?
>
>Denis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On
>Behalf Of Gregory J. Rosmaita
>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:48 PM
>To: Jon Gunderson
>Cc: User Agent Guidelines Emailing List
>Subject: Re: wording of Checkpoint 7.5
>
>
>jon suggested:
>
>quote
>Checkpoint 7.5 Allow the user to search for rendered text content,
including
>text equivalents rendered in place of or simultaneously with the primary
>content.
>unquote
>
>hmm...  short, concise, and to the point...  i like it...
>
>and, as ian suggested, if the verbiage contained in my proposed note isn't
>already in the techniques document, it should be added to the techniques
and
>not the UAGL itself...
>
>gregory.
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Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group
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