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Re: Proposed definitions for content, document object, etc.

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:49:05 -0400
Message-ID: <38FDC761.E98A8891@w3.org>
To: Denis Anson <danson@miseri.edu>
CC: Hans Riesebos <HRiesebos@alva-bv.nl>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Denis Anson wrote:
> 
> Further,  I think that the intent of 2.1 is that the user agent make
> available to the user, either natively or through AT, the content of the
> page.

The intent of 2.1 is being debated. I believe that it currently reads
as you say, but that we are going to remove the "or through an API"
part.

What do you mean be "content of the page"? Please refer to the
definition
of content proposed [1] and see if that meets your expectations.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000AprJun/0132.html

 
> A user agent is basically a parsing and rendering agent, and in the case of
> AT, it is primarily a parsing agent, since the AT will do most of the
> rendering.  If source view were to meet the demands of 2.1, a user agent
> would be freed of the need even to parse the code into understandable
> chunks.  The agent would just do its thing with no attention to access, and
> pass the raw code on to the AT, which would then be expected to perform the
> entire task that the host agent is supposed to do.
> 
> Denis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Hans Riesebos
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 6:17 AM
> To: ij@w3.org
> Cc: <
> Subject: Re: Proposed definitions for content, document object, etc.
> 
> Some small remarks <Hans>between these tags</Hans>
> 
> >>> Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> 04/18/00 10:54PM >>>
> 
> 6) Source view
> 
>    <BLOCKQUOTE>
>    A source view renders all or part of the document
>    object in a way that reveals the document object
>    model. Often, a source view presents the document
>    object using the syntax of the source markup
>    languages.
>    </BLOCKQUOTE>
> 
> <Hans>
> As I understand, the "source" is unparsed and therefore cannot reveal the
> document object in any way. Speaking of document object itself is false. If
> only the source was already parsed (contradiction in terms), a source view
> might (minimally) satisfy checkpoint 2.1, because in effect it would have
> become a document object view.
> </Hans>
> 
> Hans Riesebos
> ALVA BV, The Netherlands
> HRiesebos@alva-bv.nl

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