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Re: Proposed text about which UAs are expected to conform

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:54:10 -0400
Message-ID: <38FB41B2.99598B40@w3.org>
To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
CC: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Jon Gunderson wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> My main point is that a voice only browser could still comply.  The main
> complication from AT vendors with this issue are:
> 1. My visual interface does not comply
> 2. Exporting and supporting the DOM
> 3. Targeting one type of disability
> 
> My main concern is mentioning that a technology that is primarily speech
> output as not something that is intended to complying.  Maybe it would be
> better to say a browser that is targeting one type of disability or
> something like that.

Ok.

 - Ian


> At 11:54 AM 4/17/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> >Jon Gunderson wrote:
> > >
> > > Comments in JRG:
> > > At 04:02 PM 4/16/00 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >As part of resolving issue 232 [1], I'd like to propose the
> > > >following text for the section on conformance to explain which
> > > >user agents this document is meant for. Please note that the
> > > >abstract of the document already discusses which user agents
> > > >these guidelines are meant to address.
> > > >
> > > ><BLOCKQUOTE>
> > > >Which user agents may conform
> > > >
> > > >This document has been designed to promote the accessibility of
> > > >general-purpose graphical user agents. While many of the principles
> > > >set forth in this document apply to other
> > > >classes of user agents, including assistive technologies, many of the
> > > >checkpoints do not. As the number of applicable
> > > >checkpoints decreases for a piece of software, the likelihood
> > > >increases that the guidelines are not an accurate gauge of the
> > > >accessibility of that piece of software. Therefore, while assistive
> > > >technologies and other specialized user agents obviously promote
> > > >accessibility, they are not expected to conform (for instance, because
> > > >they offer a single output mode such as speech,
> > >
> > > JRG: I would suggest :
> > > The primary mode of output maybe generated speech, but the technology does
> > > offer a minimal visual interface for sighted support and trouble
> > > shooting.  The speech part of the interface may comply with the guidelines,
> > > but the visual interface does not.
> >
> >IJ: I don't think we should enter into that much detail in this part
> >of the guidelines.
> >
> >  - Ian
> >
> > > >or they do not make
> > > >available information through APIs) because
> > > >they are not general purpose user agents.  This document will help
> > > >assistive technology developers understand what functionalities and
> > > >communication an accessible general purpose user agent should provide.
> > > ></BLOCKQUOTE>
> > > >
> > > >  - Ian
> > > >
> > > >[1] http://cmos-eng.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear.html#232
> > > >--
> > > >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org)   http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
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> > >
> > > Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
> > > Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
> > > Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group
> > > Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
> > > College of Applied Life Studies
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> > >
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> > >
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> >
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> >Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org)   http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
> >Tel:                         +1 831 457-2842
> >Cell:                        +1 917 450-8783
> 
> Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
> Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
> Chair, W3C WAI User Agent Working Group
> Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
> College of Applied Life Studies
> University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
> 1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL  61820
> 
> Voice: (217) 244-5870
> Fax: (217) 333-0248
> 
> E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
> 
> WWW: http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
> WWW: http://www.w3.org/wai/ua

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Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org)   http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
Tel:                         +1 831 457-2842
Cell:                        +1 917 450-8783
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