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Re: Section 8.4 of UA Guidelines

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:00:07 -0400
Message-ID: <37C70A67.DC128852@w3.org>
To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
CC: schwer@us.ibm.com, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> 
> I think there should be some slight rewording:
> 
> 8.5 allow the user to search for renderable content

I don't agree. What's renderable? Text in comments? Text
hidden by style sheets? Attribute values - if so which
ones in XML?

My browser doesn't let me search for what I don't know is there.
A browser could offer another search mechanism for say, attributes
alone that aren't rendered, but we opted not to include
attribute-specific search checkpoints.
 
> and I am not sure if it is a P1 or not so lone as the ability to find it
> manually by reading the document is already provided elsewhere.

I think according to the definition of Priority 1, this one
doesn't qualify. Information is available, even if it's not convenient.
So in that sense it's priority 2.
 
> 8.4 Allow the user to navigate among only the active elements in the document

I see your point, although I would propose "just among" instead.

 - Ian
 
> If it is already possible to navigate each element individually, and know
> what type of element it is (or at least whether it is an active type of
> element) then I think this is a P2 requirement. It seems to be well
> established that it is a P2 requirement for blind users and for people with
> limited mobility (which could go into a user impact matrix)
 
> Charles McCN
> 
> On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> 
>   schwer@us.ibm.com wrote:
>   >
>   > Sections 8.4 and 8.5 should be a priority 1 requirement.
> 
>   Just to quote them from the 9 August draft [1]:
> 
>   8.4 Allow the user to navigate among all active elements
>       in the document. [Priority 2]
> 
>   8.5 Allow the user to search for rendered text content,
>       including alternative text content. [Priority 2]
> 
>   [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/WAI-USERAGENT-19990809
> 
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> 
> 
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