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RE: PROPOSAL: Checkpoint for ACCESSKEY

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:26:46 -0400 (EDT)
To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
cc: WAI UA group <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9905071322220.27875-100000@tux.w3.org>
I don't want the guidelines document to say "ACCESSKEY". I want the
guidelines to make reference to a defined set of elements and attributes
which should be implemented in HTML. There is currently a priority 1
checkpoint which does precisely that, and I think that is sufficient.

I think that referenced document should say Accessky is one of the attributes
which must be implemented by a User Agent which claims to render HTML and
be accessible. 

I might even expect to see some simple information there about how Accesskey
should be used - unfortunately the HTML specification does not make it very
clear what the constraints are.

Charles McCN

On Fri, 7 May 1999, Jon Gunderson wrote:

  So you just want the guidelines to say the the attibute ACCESSKEY is good
  for accessibility in the current section 7 and I am assuming that you want
  the features needed for accessible implementation be be in the techniques
  document?
  
  I think it would make it clearer to developers if they saw the access key
  implementation information as part of other navigation commands.  If it is
  only in the compatibility section, it will not have the weight or the
  visibility of a checkpoint.
  
  Jon
  
  
  
  
  At 10:40 AM 5/7/99 -0500, James Allan wrote:
  >I agreee with Charles and Mark, I don't see a need for a checkpoint for
  >sequential navigation of elements with accesskeys, you can already get to
  >the elements by link access, form control navigation, etc.
  >
  >> -----Original Message-----
  >> From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On
  >> Behalf Of Charles McCathieNevile
  >> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 9:59 AM
  >> To: Jon Gunderson
  >> Cc: mark novak; w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
  >> Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Checkpoint for ACCESSKEY
  >>
  >>
  >> 7.1.1 Priority 1 Support Accessibility features for HTML
  >>
  >> seems to cover it for me.
  >>
  >> Charles
  >>
  >> On Fri, 7 May 1999, Jon Gunderson wrote:
  >>
  >>   We have no specific checkpoint in the current WD, so I would like to
  >>   document that the group would like to include a specific
  >> checkpoint.  For
  >>   the accesskey attribute I recommend that we have a specific checkpoint.
  >>   Jon
  >>
  >>
  >>   At 11:04 PM 5/6/99 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
  >>   >There was such a checkpoint in the previous draft. I haven't
  >> checked the
  >>   >document, but I was under the impression that this had not
  >> been dropped. Some
  >>   >time ago I suggested that this checkpoint be clarified to
  >> specify exactly
  >>   >what kind of information was necessary.
  >>   >
  >>   >Charles
  >>   >
  >>   >On Thu, 6 May 1999, mark novak wrote:
  >>   >
  >>   >  I do have another question however:
  >>   >
  >>   >  Do we need a checkpoint for a "where am I"  function, something that
  >>   >  would return information such as page title, location on
  >> page, element
  >>   >  with focus, previous page title was, summary, etc., while navigating
  >>   >  with in a page?
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >  At 11:00 AM -0500 5/6/99, Jon Gunderson wrote:
  >>   >  >In response to CMN:
  >>   >  >The sequential statement is due to the potential multiple
  >> definitions of
  >>   >  >the same accesskey in a document.  If more than one
  >> control, link, label,
  >>   >  >... uses the same accesskey we want people to be able to
  >> navigate to each
  >>   >  >one.  In the case of single definitions of an accesskey in
  >> a document then
  >>   >  >the sequential part is a mute point, the focus would move
  >> directly to that
  >>   >  >associated focusable element.
  >>   >  >Jon
  >>   >  >
  >>   >  >At 11:44 AM 5/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
  >>   >  >>I don't think that we should not have a checkpoint for
  >> ACCESSKEY. I do
  >>   think
  >>   >  >>that a checkpoint requiring sequential access to elements
  >> which have an
  >>   >  >>ACCESSKEY is inappropriate - the purpose of the element is
  >> to provide
  >>   access
  >>   >  >>to certain elements in a non-sequential manner.
  >>   >  >>
  >>   >  >>Charles McCN
  >>   >  >>
  >>   >  >Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
  >>   >  >Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
  >>   >  >Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
  >>   >  >University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
  >>   >  >1207 S. Oak Street
  >>   >  >Champaign, IL 61820
  >>   >  >
  >>   >  >Voice: 217-244-5870
  >>   >  >Fax: 217-333-0248
  >>   >  >E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
  >>   >  >WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
  >>   >  >	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   >--Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
  >>   >phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
  >>   >W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
  >>   >MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
  >>   >
  >>   Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
  >>   Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
  >>   Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
  >>   University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
  >>   1207 S. Oak Street
  >>   Champaign, IL 61820
  >>
  >>   Voice: 217-244-5870
  >>   Fax: 217-333-0248
  >>   E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
  >>   WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
  >>   	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
  >>
  >>
  >> --Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
  >> phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
  >> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
  >> MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
  >>
  >>
  > 
  Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
  Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
  Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
  University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
  1207 S. Oak Street
  Champaign, IL 61820
  
  Voice: 217-244-5870
  Fax: 217-333-0248
  E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
  WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
  	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
  

--Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
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