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Re: PROPOSAL: Checkpoint for ACCESSKEY

From: mark novak <menovak@facstaff.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:03:02 -0500
Message-Id: <v03007807b358b05822da@[128.104.23.196]>
To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
At 9:48 AM -0500 5/7/99, Jon Gunderson wrote:
>Response in JRG2:
>At 04:46 PM 5/6/99 -0500, mark novak wrote:
>>At 3:53 PM -0500 5/6/99, Jon Gunderson wrote:
>>>Response in JRG:
>>>
>>>At 02:51 PM 5/6/99 -0500, mark novak wrote:
>>>>i'd also vote that we do not need a checkpoint for sequential access to
>>>>elements
>>>>which have an ACCESSKEY.
>>>>
>>>>what i'd expect to happen in those cases where more than one element
>>>>had the "same" ACCESSKEY, is that i'd be able to navigate between those
>>>>elements by repeatedly typing that same ACCESSKEY, which is basically
>>>>sequential access of sorts...otherwise, I think we already have access
>to the
>>>>element by virtue of the ACCESSKEY.
>>>
>>>JRG: That was the intention of the word sequential, if you have a better
>>>phrasing please post to the list.
>>
>>MN:  wasn't trying to reword, still suggesting this checkpoint is not needed.
>
>JRG2: What other checkpoint do you see that covers the navigation to
>elements using the ACCESSKEY?

MN2:  I think we are getting hung up on semantics, what i was trying to
say is that I agreed with Charles, in that I don't believe we should have a
checkpoint "requiring sequential navigation to the ACCESSKEY", thats all.



>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>I do have another question however:
>>>>
>>>>Do we need a checkpoint for a "where am I"  function, something that
>>>>would return information such as page title, location on page, element
>>>>with focus, previous page title was, summary, etc., while navigating
>>>>with in a page?
>>>
>>>JRG: That is in the section under orientation.
>>>Section 6 in the current guidelines.
>>
>>MN:  great.  suggest we add a link from navigation section
>>also, it that is easily possible.
>
>JRG2: I think the techniques section is where the different checkpoints
>need to be combined to demonstrate functional implementations of the
>checkpoints

MN2:  where ever you feel it best to reference is fine with me.


>>>Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 11:00 AM -0500 5/6/99, Jon Gunderson wrote:
>>>>>In response to CMN:
>>>>>The sequential statement is due to the potential multiple definitions of
>>>>>the same accesskey in a document.  If more than one control, link, label,
>>>>>... uses the same accesskey we want people to be able to navigate to each
>>>>>one.  In the case of single definitions of an accesskey in a document then
>>>>>the sequential part is a mute point, the focus would move directly to that
>>>>>associated focusable element.
>>>>>Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>At 11:44 AM 5/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>I don't think that we should not have a checkpoint for ACCESSKEY. I do
>>>think
>>>>>>that a checkpoint requiring sequential access to elements which have an
>>>>>>ACCESSKEY is inappropriate - the purpose of the element is to provide
>>>access
>>>>>>to certain elements in a non-sequential manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charles McCN
>>>>>>
>>>>>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>>>>>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>>>>>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>>>>>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>>>>>1207 S. Oak Street
>>>>>Champaign, IL 61820
>>>>>
>>>>>Voice: 217-244-5870
>>>>>Fax: 217-333-0248
>>>>>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>>>>>WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>>>>>	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
>>>>
>>>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>>>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>>>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>>>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>>>1207 S. Oak Street
>>>Champaign, IL 61820
>>>
>>>Voice: 217-244-5870
>>>Fax: 217-333-0248
>>>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>>>WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>>>	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
>>
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>1207 S. Oak Street
>Champaign, IL 61820
>
>Voice: 217-244-5870
>Fax: 217-333-0248
>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
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