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RE: Minutes

From: Kathy Hewitt <kathyhe@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:25:01 -0800
Message-ID: <39ADCF833E74D111A2D700805F1951EF0799DD57@RED-MSG-06>
To: "'Charles McCathieNevile'" <charles@w3.org>
Cc: WAI UA group <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
I agree in theory that navigation and interaction of the HTML document area
is part of the user interface.  Given the section that it is in and the
discussion around 3.1.1, it was intended to refer to menus and toolbars
(i.e. the browser container's UI).  HTML document and the container UI are
two distinctly different things and we have guidelines that deal
specifically with navigation and interaction with the HTML document between
section 4 and 5.  Let's keep 3.1.1 strictly to the container UI and have the
rest of the guidelines to the document area as it was intended.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:03 AM
To: Kathy Hewitt
Cc: WAI UA group
Subject: RE: Minutes


Actually I think the part where it may be a little vague is with respect
to the browser-specific controls, since some of those are only relevant to
the browser in certain configurations, and it may not be very important to
provide access to them.

The User Interface includes the means by which the HTML document area is
navigated, and parts of it selected or activated, etc. Perhaps we should
split 3.1.1 into two parts, one dealing with the browser-specific controls
and one with the controls specific to the rendered content, in the same
way as we have currently split techniques for dealing with the font
colours and the font size, but I don't think so.

Charles

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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Kathy Hewitt wrote:

  Agree - I don't believe the group actually decided it was too vague.
  
  However, it became clear to me that by trying to apply the technique to
the
  HTML document area, 3.1.1 became too vague.  3.1.1 was in a section
talking
  about the the browser user interface (menus and toolbars) rather than the
  HTML document area.  While you may want to lump it all together as part of
  the user interface, these are two distinctly different beasts and it was
my
  understanding that the reason this group formed was to help solve problems
  in the HTML document area and that the browser UI/setup/documentation got
  lumped into peripheral items/techniques (like 3.1.1).
Received on Wednesday, 16 December 1998 13:25:33 GMT

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