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RE: navigating Vs searching

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:00:51 -0600
Message-Id: <199811091603.KAA13326@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: Denis Anson <danson@miseri.edu>, Kitch Barnicle <kitch@afb.org>, "w3c-wai-ua@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
I think we are looking for ways to navigate by content.  One way to think
of searching is to create a list of all the headers allow some one to
search that list of headers sequentially, by numeric position or by
alphabetic letters.
Jon


At 10:19 AM 11/6/98 -0500, Denis Anson wrote:
>Jon,
>
>I think we need to keep in mind the distinction between searching, browsing, 
>and actually getting information from the web.
>
>In my doctoral course, Teaching and Learning on the Web, we are doing a
lot of 
>web based research for focus papers.  We look at resources on the web, 
>including on-line journals and the like.  We frequently read this articles
(at 
>least skim them) on the web.  If our navigation were combined with a list of 
>links, we would be able to get to the top of the article, the bottom of the 
>article, and perhaps an occasional internal link.  But we might have pages
of 
>information that was inaccessible to keyboard navigation.
>
>No, I think we need a way to navigate the *content* of the page as well as
the 
>links off of the page.
>
>Denis
>
>On Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:45 AM, Jon Gunderson 
>[SMTP:jongund@staff.uiuc.edu] wrote:
>> I think the current guidelines put direct navigation into searching, since
>> when it is discussed it usuaully refers to bring up a list of elements
>> (i.e. links) and have the user use a numeric or aphabetic key board
>> commands to move through the list.  I am not sure there is a big
>> distinction between this type of direct navigation and the general concept
>> of searching.  It potentially may be an easier sell, if it is discussed as
>> searching (since many user agents already have search functions) than as
>> some new keyboard based technique.
>>
>> What do people think about combining direct navigation with search
functions?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> At 09:12 AM 11/4/98 -0500, Kitch Barnicle wrote:
>> >
>> >In the "navigation" sections  of the guidelines and techniques it seems as
>> >though we primarily refer to sequential navigation. Has the concept of
>> >direct navigation been folded into searching?  To me the notion of
>> >searching implies an extra step. While I think providing multiple ways to
>> >search for items on a page is important, I don't want to totally lose the
>> >concept of directly moving to a link or active element. What do people
>> >think? Am I missing something?
>> >
>> >
>> >Also, I am not sure what 5.6.3 means, "Allow the user to search for a link
>> >in the current document based on its position."  Is this guideline a
>> >substitute for providing numbered links?
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Kitch
>> >
>> Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>> Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>> Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>> University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>> 1207 S. Oak Street
>> Champaign, IL 61820
>>
>> Voice: 217-244-5870
>> Fax: 217-333-0248
>> E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>> WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
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> 
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, IL 61820

Voice: 217-244-5870
Fax: 217-333-0248
E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
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