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RE: <smil> SAMI Closed Captions are now available for your revi ew (fwd)

From: Jon Gunderson <jongund@staff.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:35:22 -0500
Message-Id: <199808251337.IAA22995@staff1.cso.uiuc.edu>
To: "Charles (Chuck) Oppermann" <chuckop@microsoft.com>, David Poehlman <poehlman@clark.net>, w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Response to Chuck Oppermann.
1. The UA guidelines would want to focus on the potential user interface
issues of a SAMI player related to accessibility.  

2. The potential recommendation or reference to use SAMI as an authoring
format for accessibility would be under the Page Authoring guidelines to
consider.

3. Features for Authoring Tools to create accessible SAMI documents would
be part of the tools working group.

Would you like to propose adding a section in the User Agent guidelines on
features for an accessible SAMI player?

Jon



At 06:12 PM 8/24/98 -0700, Charles (Chuck) Oppermann wrote:
>So is the question "Should SAMI be included in the guidelines similar to
>MSAA and JAP?"  or is the question "Let's review SAMI as part of the UA
>guidelines?"
>
>Of course, I'm just talking about the first question.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Gunderson [mailto:jongund@staff.uiuc.edu]
>Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 2:39 PM
>To: Charles (Chuck) Oppermann; David Poehlman; w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
>Subject: RE: <smil> SAMI Closed Captions are now available for your revi
>ew (fwd)
>
>
>We recommend the use of accessibility APIs, and have a reference to known
>accessibility APIs including Active Accessibility.  But we don't try to set
>or discuss specifications for those accessibility API standards.  We can
>have input into W3C recommendations.  
>
>Is SAMI part of any W3C recommendation processes?
>Jon
>
>  
>
>At 11:51 AM 8/24/98 -0700, Charles (Chuck) Oppermann wrote:
>>A couple of points - the W3C does not create standards, they create
>>recommendations.  The guidelines reference Java Accessibility API which is
>>considered fairly proprietary.  If the guidelines recommend those, why
>>should they not recommend SAMI?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jon Gunderson [mailto:jongund@staff.uiuc.edu]
>>Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 7:59 AM
>>To: David Poehlman; w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
>>Subject: Re: <smil> SAMI Closed Captions are now available for your
>>review (fwd)
>>
>>
>>I don't believe SAMI is a W3C standard.  SAMI I belive is a proprietary
>>standard of Microsoft and the W3C from my understanding does not comment on
>>proprietary standards.  If some one from Microsoft or anywhere else has any
>>other information, please post to the list.  This same issue came up with
>>accessibility APIs.  
>>Jon
>>
>>
>>At 07:19 AM 8/21/98 -0400, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>should we include this?
>>>I think this is what was promised.
>>>
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>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 04:10:28 -0500
>>>From: David Bolnick <davebo@MICROSOFT.com>
>>>Reply-To: uaccess-l@trace.wisc.edu
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list <uaccess-l@trace.wisc.edu>
>>>Subject: SAMI Closed Captions are now available for your review
>>>
>>>SAMI Article #1:
>>>
>>>With the recent release of Windows Media Player came SAMI captions. SAMI,
>>>Synchronized Accessible Media Interchange, is a single authoring format
>for
>>>captions and audio descriptions.  This article and set of demos focus on
>>>captioning. There will be subsequent articles on audio description (see
>>list
>>>below).
>>>
>>>SAMI Overview article: http://microsoft.com/enable/products/multimedia.htm
>>><http://microsoft.com/enable/products/multimedia.htm> 
>>>
>>>******* Please review the following before you download any SAMI
>>>demos********
>>>
>>>SAMI Format article: http://microsoft.com/enable/products/sami.htm
>>><http://microsoft.com/enable/products/sami.htm> 
>>>
>>>There has been much confusion about the role of SAMI vs. the role of SMIL.
>>>The two are quite different though they use similar techniques to
>>accomplish
>>>their goals. SMIL is a set of XML based elements used for presenting and
>>>positioning synchronized components of a multimedia presentation. On the
>>>other hand, SAMI is an authoring format solely designed to deliver
>>>synchronized captions and audio description. SAMI has been designed to
>>>provide multiple language and style support. The latter is critical for
>>>accessibility. That is, if the user is unable to read the captions due to
>a
>>>visual impairment then we can question whether we have provided captions
>to
>>>that user. Thus, SAMI supports multiple styles so the caption author can
>>>provide, in addition to a standard font, several varieties of large print
>>or
>>>color combinations for the user to select from. Furthermore, SAMI
>>introduces
>>>an optional Source ID line that continuously displays the source of the
>>>sound. This is valuable for many dyslexics and people with short-term
>>memory
>>>loss (those, like myself, over 40). 
>>>
>>>Future articles:
>>>* Using SAMI for Closed Captions on the Web (mid September)
>>>* SAMI Support of Audio Description (mid October)
>>>* SAMI as an authoring format for EIA608, EIA708, DVD, and Web encoding -
>>>full SAMI spec (mid November)
>>>* SAMI Caption Authoring Tool (mid December)
>>>
>>>Note:
>>>We are currently working on version 2 of Windows Media Player's SAMI
>>>support. Please send your suggestions directly to me. 
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>David A. Bolnick
>>>Accessibility Program Manager: Multimedia, Telecommunications
>>>Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA  98052
>>>E-mail:  <mailto:davebo@microsoft.com> davebo@microsoft.com     Web:
>>><http://microsoft.com/enable> http://microsoft.com/enable
>>> 
>>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>>1207 S. Oak Street
>>Champaign, IL 61820
>>
>>Voice: 217-244-5870
>>Fax: 217-333-0248
>>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>>WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>>	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
>> 
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>1207 S. Oak Street
>Champaign, IL 61820
>
>Voice: 217-244-5870
>Fax: 217-333-0248
>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>WWW:	http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>	http://www.als.uiuc.edu/InfoTechAccess
> 
Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
1207 S. Oak Street
Champaign, IL 61820

Voice: 217-244-5870
Fax: 217-333-0248
E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
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