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Re: Rulers/borders

From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:50:51 -0400
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To: Jaap.van.Lelieveld@inter.nl.net (jaap van lelieveld)
Cc: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
At 08:54 PM 05/04/98 +0100, jaap van lelieveld wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:29:18 -0500 Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com> wrote:
>> At 10:45 PM 25/03/98 +0100, jaap van lelieveld wrote:
>> >Proposal for UA guidelines:
>> >
>> >A browser must show rulers and borders.
>> Why?  Rulers and borders are visual objects that by themselves have no
>> meaning.  An aural user does not gain anything from knowing that a table
>> has borders (for example).
>When you look at a ruler as such it is _only a visual objet", but
>a (good) designer adds a ruler for some reason

Yes, and so the browser should give the reason for the rule rather than
saying "There's a rule".  In structural HTML, there are no rules, but there
are reasons for rules.

>When you look at a today's HTML page you see several types of
>- Tables to force some layout. They normally do not have a border
>  since that would disturb the layout.
>- numerical or textual tables. In these case the borders are
>  used to identify the diferent cells and/or rows/comuns.

The cells are identified by the TD or TH elements.  The borders are a
visual presentation that is unimportant to the non-visual user since they
do not express any meaning.


Liam Quinn
Web Design Group            Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development
http://www.htmlhelp.com/    http://enhanced-designs.com/
Received on Sunday, 5 April 1998 15:51:08 UTC

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