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Re: Electron accessibility

From: Markku Hakkinen <mhakkinen@acm.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:55:55 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOWJxhWFEHidXAwn4qb0=400Ui_-J9BNsf-J2Ww65VdjhMd33A@mail.gmail.com>
To: tink@tink.uk
Cc: "Sean Murphy (seanmmur)" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi Leonie,


On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk> wrote:

> On 15/01/2018 01:42, Markku Hakkinen wrote:
>
>> Electron is a wrapper around the Chrome (Chromium) browser.  The
>> accessibility support native to the version of Chromium used to build
>> Electron is what is exposed.   Cautionary note is that Electron releases
>> typically lag several releases behind the current Chrome release, meaning
>> bugs fixed in newer releases of Chrome will not be present in the “current”
>> Electron release.
>>
>
> It seems from what you've said, that Electron can be accessible - with the
> caveat that there may be some lag before issues are resolved there. Does
> that mean Electron in and of itself is capable of a reasonable degree of
> accessibility?
>

I am personally aware of, designed for, and tested accessible applications
built on Electron, and hence well aware of the lag issues. Also, I need to
add that our electron-based applications are currently executing under
Windows.  We have not yet tested on other platforms (e.g., MacOS) so YMMV
on other platforms.  With the caveat of Windows, and coding the web
application accessibly, then, yes, Electron is capable of accessible
applications in that Google Chrome allows for same.



>
> I ask because I'm trying (and failing) to find a screen reader accessible
> code editor. Atom and VS Code are both Electron based, and neither seems
> usefully accessible. Much the same seems to be true of Slack, another
> Electron based tool I'd very much like to be usable with a screen reader.
>

I would have to suggest that VS Code has failings in implementation. I
wouldn't point my finger at Electron, directly, without testing.


>
> As an aside, I know VS Code has an accessibility mode, but when it's
> enabled you lose basic features like word wrapping and line numbering, and
> I can't write code without those two basic features!
>

Yes, they have that mode.  Perhaps this is best pursued with the VS Code
support group?

Mark


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>> Mark
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