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Re: ATAG testing

From: Jonathan Katz <jonathanpkatz@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:22:42 -0400
Message-ID: <CAP233vbvKSxmTBCqk9LhH4-tZm1BK9voMmHHD5y-897CRex2dw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Mike Gifford <mike@openconcept.ca>
Cc: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>, Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>, "Sean Murphy (seanmmur)" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, w3c WAI List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Thanks very much!

*-Jonathan Paul Katz*
 jonathanpkatz@gmail.com

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mike Gifford <mike@openconcept.ca> wrote:

> Sorry Jonathan,
>
> I’m pretty confident that at no point in it’s lifecycle will
> Interwoven/TeamSite be ATAG 2.0 compliant. Even if you’re just looking at
> Part A, it is a really big jump for many legacy applications.
>
> Most agencies do not demand that the admin side of their software is
> accessible. As with physical buildings, it is often easier to simply
> re-build them rather than retrofit them to meet modern accessibility
> requirements.
>
> I’ve started a document looking at how to get better language into
> procurement here:
> https://github.com/mgifford/a11y-contracting/
>
> Meeting WCAG 2.0 AA for editors is no small undertaking and no browser
> extension is going to be able to insert the semantics that would be needed
> to make a rich interface meet those guidelines.
>
> So many of the exciting pieces of ATAG 2.0 come from Part B. There are
> huge potential cost savings by guiding your authors to produce better
> content.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Katz <jonathanpkatz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Does anyone know if Interwoven/TeamSite's upcoming upgrade will be
> ATAG-compliant? We have issues with our current platform for some of our
> employees who use AT.
>
> *-Jonathan Paul Katz*
>  jonathanpkatz@gmail.com
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Section 508 Revised Standards
>> <https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/final-rule/text-of-the-standards-and-guidelines>
>> now include a few ATAG requirements
>> - see Revised 508 Authoring Tools Checkpoints
>> http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/ci162/accessibility_
>> checklist.html#authoring
>>
>> So, although ATAG Part A is not explicitly referenced in 508, it is
>> implied or as some would say: "equivalent" because the software or web app
>> must comply with WCAG,  and, the 5 additional requirements, mostly from
>> part B of ATAG,  are listed in the reference above.
>> ___________
>> Regards,
>> Phill Jenkins
>> +1 512-791-4517 <(512)%20791-4517> mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>
>> To:        "'Sean Murphy \(seanmmur\)'" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, <
>> w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>> Date:        09/26/2017 12:40 PM
>> Subject:        RE: ATAG testing
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> Elements of ATAG are intrinsically covered by QA procedures, but as far
>> as I know, ATAG is not directly referenced.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sean Murphy (seanmmur) [mailto:seanmmur@cisco.com
>> <seanmmur@cisco.com>]
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 5:35 PM
>> *To:* Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
>> *Subject:* RE: ATAG testing
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> Has Facebook utilised the ATAG standard for your development platforms
>> and what about your flagship product? Just trying to determine how many
>> vendors are utilising the standard and how effective it is,  plus  level of
>> educations and awareness is out there.
>>
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>> *From:* Matt King [*mailto:a11ythinker@gmail.com* <a11ythinker@gmail.com>]
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>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 September 2017 5:30 AM
>> *To:* *w3c-wai-ig@w3.org* <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: ATAG testing
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>> Perhaps good news for Word Press if not too late … React moving to MIT
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