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Re: Unicode character for CC symbol?

From: Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 00:39:17 +0100
To: Elizabeth Pyatt <ejp10@psu.edu>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <5b1303a3-5897-14ac-4b3d-7a42e61b1296@splintered.co.uk>
On 05/09/2017 18:58, Elizabeth Pyatt wrote:
> Icon fonts can work if ARIA descriptions are added. This basically treats the character as an image and adds an ALT text option.
> See http://sites.psu.edu/gotunicode/2014/11/18/aria-for-screen-readers-not-able-to-read-symbols/

Still doesn't help sighted, non-AT users who change their font (e.g. in 
case of users with dyslexia who force a particular typeface that works 
best for them)

P

> As you might guess, you would want to be strategic in your use of an icon font, this could be a case where the ARIA solution could be useful (or you could use an image with ALT text).
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Noting that icon fonts have their own issues, particularly for users who set custom fonts, among other things. See https://cloudfour.com/thinks/seriously-dont-use-icon-fonts/ and https://speakerdeck.com/ninjanails/death-to-icon-fonts
>>
>> P
>>
>> On 05/09/2017 15:43, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:
>>> It is available in Font Awesome (http://fontawesome.io/icon/cc/) using the private use space in Unicodeā€¦
>>> Thanks,
>>> AWK
>>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>>> Adobe
>>> akirkpat@adobe.com
>>> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>>> On 9/5/17, 06:07, "Nigel Megitt" <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> This seems on the face of it problematic. The trouble is that there is no
>>>> single representation for the idea of "closed captions" globally. Whereas
>>>> in the US it might be represented by something like "CC", in the UK where
>>>> closed captions are known more usually as subtitles, it is often
>>>> represented by "S". I may be wrong about this but I don't think Unicode
>>>> would normally create a code point for a glyph that has
>>>> territory/culture-specific variant forms.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, a globally usable label of some sort that means "this is
>>>> the button for switching closed captions on and off" could be useful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/09/2017, 22:33, "Michael A. Peters" <mpeters@domblogger.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> According to
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AClosed_captioning_symbol.svg&data=02%7C01%7C%7C044b96f883e0476fbf5408d4f446d6c7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636402032489256383&sdata=um37Q5hz%2FuCfvJ67yslDrq5qF%2FPPwrRp77uZTxr7mwQ%3D&reserved=0 that
>>>>> symbol has been released into the public domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would make sense then for there to be a unicode character for it, in
>>>>> the technical range (where play and fast forward and pause glyphs exist)
>>>>> but I could not find one.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me where it would be useful is when designing html5 players, the
>>>>> standard audio players in most browsers don't show the CC button even
>>>>> when there are track elements provided and custom JS to display them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it had a unicode character, I could modify my webfont to include it
>>>>> there and just specify the character glyph (in a span with title
>>>>> attribute of course) like I do with the other player control elements.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can suggest it to the unicode group but I wanted to make sure it
>>>>> doesn't already exist and I'm just not finding it, and also if it
>>>>> doesn't, hear any arguments as to why it might be a bad idea.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Patrick H. Lauke
>>
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>>
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