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Re: WCAG compliance question

From: Richard \(Userite\) <richard@userite.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:25:54 -0000
Message-ID: <696E8C2558B543CAB4DB818F58523093@DaddyPC2>
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Yes the site needs to be accessible with CSS enabled AND with it disabled.

Developers can use CSS to "hide" messages that are aimed at people who use 
screen readers. For example most pages have a top navigation bar which 
requires a heading so that blind users can find it easily. However to stop 
the heading actually showing up on the page for sighted users CSS has been 
used such as, for example,  either {display:none;} or 
{position:left, -1999px;}

It is not that visual users are getting less than blind users, just that 
additional help is provided for screen readers.

The fact that your Jaws does not pick up this hidden text suggests that the 
CSS has been written incorrectly.

Regards

Richard
www.userite.com


-----Original Message----- 
From: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 11:23 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: WCAG compliance question

Hi Ginger,

as I read WCAG 2.0 it allows conformance claims to rely on particular
technology - See point 5 at
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#conformance-claims.

So you can say that the site is conformant, Relying Upon CSS.

Conformance is not the most important question, however, in my opinion.
That question is "does the site have accessibility barriers"? Which comes
down to a few questions:
- do users turn off CSS in ie 11 (e.g. to simplify the layout or colour
scheme, or ensure that their own style sheet works?)
- what about other user agents?

cheers

On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:14:00 +0100, Ginger Claassen
<ginger.claassen@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I have a WCAG compliance question. I am checking a website for a  customer 
> and if I am opening the site in internet explorer 11 with css  enabled I 
> can use the site more or less. however, if I disable css  suddenly there 
> are a lot of things I have not seen with jfw or nvda   before. Thus, is it 
> wcag compliant to do this or has a site to be  accessibel even with css 
> enabled?
>
> thanks in advance for your assistance!
>
> Solong
>
>      Ginger
>


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