Re: Tables: Does scope="col" Stop When A Row Spans Multiple Columns?

Sounds like an incorrectly marked up table. Jaws uses the same process to evaluate and read tables in both PDF and HTML.

Andrew Kirkpatrick


On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:46 AM, "Homme, James" <james.homme@highmark.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> The table I looked at was in a PDF. JAWS spoke the headers correctly when I moved from left to right. It spoke the whole column down to the cell I landed on when I moved from right to left. So, if I was in row six, it read all five cells above where I looked, and if I was in row nine, it read the first eight cells, then the one I landed on. Could there be some other problem?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Hudson [mailto:rhudson@usability.com.au] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:28 PM
> To: 'Duff Johnson'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Tables: Does scope="col" Stop When A Row Spans Multiple Columns?
> 
> Some years ago I checked how well several screen readers used scope and
> found with "rows" the results were not good, and only just OK with "col".
> Does anyone have any recent results of testing HTML data tables with screen
> readers, and in particular with complex tables that have more than one level
> of column and/or row headers?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Roger
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duff Johnson [mailto:duff@duff-johnson.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 5:06 AM
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Tables: Does scope="col" Stop When A Row Spans Multiple
> Columns?
> 
> Jim,
> 
> - Headers with a scope of "col" are column headers
> - Headers with a scope of "row" are row headers
> - Cell can span rows or columns up to the maximum number of rows or columns
> in the table.
> 
> If the table may be fully executed using the above you don't need to use
> IDs.
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> Duff.
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Homme, James" <james.homme@highmark.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I have a table in which the heading cells all have scope="col", but the
> table has some rows that span across the whole table. What is the expected
> behavior for this situation? Should I consider using the headers and id
> attributes to get proper reading if something doesn't work?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
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