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Re: Redundant alt text and titles

From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:50:14 -0400
Message-Id: <0C553DDE-F037-41BE-B092-93EF288AF7A1@comcast.net>
Cc: Vivienne CONWAY <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org list" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: Rabab Gomaa <Rabab.Gomaa@inspection.gc.ca>
This question has interested me and bothered me for quite some time.  I think titles are for images that need them.  I think alt tags are for images that need them.  I think titles and alt tags if used judiciously can work well together.

Therefore, title and alt tag serving different functions should never repeat each other.

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On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:23 AM, "Rabab Gomaa" <Rabab.Gomaa@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:

Hi Vivienne,
I wouldn't note a failure for a title that repeats the text link, however, it is not a best practice therefore I would note it a warning.
Title is considered a supplementary source of information for a link while alt is the main source that provides the information in an image.

>>> Vivienne CONWAY <v.conway@ecu.edu.au> 3/27/2013 7:31 am >>>
Hi all
When titles are used as a tool tip and are redundant to the adjacent menu item, would you consider this a 'fail' in the same way that many consider the redundancy of alt text for images as a fail of 1.1.1.?  That is, when the image has alt text that is the same as the adjacent textual information - usually a heading or paragraph/sentence.
I know it's a bit of a double-barrelled question, but they seem to be related. In both cases, the screen reader user would hear the information twice (especially if their screen reader can read titles).  It is something that really annoys screen reader users - having to hear things twice.  While it is probably not 'best practice', I'm wondering if you're evaluating a page if you'd consider this a 'fail'.
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