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Re: Rethinking the necessities of ARIA landmark role "main" and HTML5 <main> element

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:55:58 -0700
Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=CWnqOJg0UO72-iBweAnuh_hqjJLH2oYfhBfDWz2L3JA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Yang <ian@invigoreight.com>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi Ian,

you need to ask Hixie for the details, he has not provided any convincing
or detailed arguments for his opinions as far as I know.

with regards

--
SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
 <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>


On 23 March 2013 09:18, Ian Yang <ian@invigoreight.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> I understand that there are use cases for these two features. I was just
> being inspired by and being interested in different opinions. After all,
> different opinions sometimes can be helpful if they are insightful. So
> personally I would be willing to know the details.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ian Yang
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>>
>> > Ian Hixie, he mentioned that the existence of the ARIA landmark role
>> "main" is a mistake
>>
>> >That's very thought-provoking
>>
>> how so? hixie offers no concrete reasons and there are concrete use cases
>> for role=main and <main> none of which hixie has managed to dispute.
>>
>> both role=main and now <main> are part of the web platform and
>> interoperably implemented across browsers and assistive technology, so I
>> suggest that they will not be discarded even due to an opinion of Hixie's
>>
>>
>> with regards
>>
>> --
>> SteveF
>> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html>
>>
>>
>> On 23 March 2013 14:57, Ian Yang <ian@invigoreight.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi editors and all other folks,
>>>
>>> In a previous discussion with Ian Hixie, he mentioned that the existence
>>> of the ARIA landmark role "main" is a mistake. In other words, the role
>>> "main" should not have been introduced.
>>>
>>> That's very thought-provoking. I used to be one of those who supported
>>> the adoption of the HTML5 <main> element. Yet after reconsidering the above
>>> theory these days, I seem to gradually realize that a mechanism for
>>> differentiating main contents from other contents is not always necessary.
>>>
>>> I may have missed a past discussion about this topic. Could someone
>>> point me out a resource? Personally, I think this topic is very worth
>>> discussing. However, it might lead to discards of the ARIA landmark role
>>> "main" and the HTML5 <main> element.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Ian Yang
>>>
>>
>>
>
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