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Re: is javascript considered good wacg 2.0 practice?

From: Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:05:32 +0100
Message-ID: <CA++-QFdcfV2FT4G2t8RYbTd7sEYxqLihfSupzhis5O0GbJQBNg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Steve Green wrote:

If Bell declare JavaScript to be part of their technology baseline, then
> the website does not need to work without JavaScript enabled. However, all
> the JavaScript features must be implemented in an accessible manner.
>

This can be true, *only* if this solution was developed for sole use by a
company, using the solution in-house, who are also using browsers, and/or
AT that fully understand JavaScript, and all the functionality so provided
is accessible to all users.

If however, this is a public website, where everyone has the right of
access and can expect to be treated equally, then if a user uses a browser
or AT that does not support JavaScript, and is thereby denied access to the
functionality offered via the scripting, then the site is not accessible.
Ergo, the site is non-compliant.

The clause of "technology baseline" is not an escape clause. It was
provided to enable companies building in-house web-based solutions, where
they have full control over the browsers and AT to save on additional
development costs which may be required to make it accessible to all.


Kind regards
Harry



On 13 December 2012 10:37, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Whether a user has JavaScript enabled or not is not an accessibility
> concern.
> A site that relies on Javascript for functionality is equally problematic
> for all users who do not have Javascript enabled.
>
> Whether the Javascript that is used is coded to provide the correct
> information and interaction behaviours  is an accessibility concern.
>
>
> regards
> SteveF
>
>
> On 13 December 2012 07:52, David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>wrote:
>
>> Steve Green wrote:
>>
>>  3. If Bell declare JavaScript to be part of their technology
>>>
>> + baseline, then the website does not need to work without JavaScript
>> + enabled.  However, all the JavaScript features must be implemented
>> + in an accessible manner.
>>
>>>
>>>  There is no indication that this is a closed system.  Being able to
>> declare a technology baseline sounds like a good way to avoid the nuisance
>> of WCAG, if it applies to the general internet.
>>
>> Note that there is an increasing community of users of ARM based systems
>> using the netsurf browser which has no scripting capability at all. That's
>> as well as those who have to block it for security policy reasons.
>>
>>
>
>
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