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Re: Accessible bootstrapping is now available using semantic HTML markup.

From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:45:36 +0000
Message-ID: <50B1F6D0.203@david-woolley.me.uk>
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
CC: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@list.webaim.org>, free-aria@googlegroups.com, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, accessible@googlegroups.com
Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> Hello, please forgive the cross-posting, this actually is quite 
> important. I'll be brief.

Cross-posting doesn't work well on mailing lists.  It is likely to 
result in replies being rejected on some of them,
> If you don't know what bootstrapping is, I'm referring to the use of 
> semantic HTML markup to configure advanced controls, which are then 

I find the name bootstrapping confusing.  Bootstrapping is a well 
established term in computer science referring to using a small program 
loaded with a simple mechanism, to load the final larger program.  I 
think it is stretching that definition too much to use if for what you 

(I also suspect it is the cause of the increasing number of pages that 
produce one or more "script is taking too long" messages, when I use a 
slow machine, and sometimes even on a modern netbook.  I usually  notice 
no degradation when I stop the script.)

> Recently, Google's Vice President Vinton G. Cerf asked "Why Is 
> Accessibility So Hard?" 
> <http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2012/11/156585-why-is-accessibility-so-hard/fulltext>

That article limits itself to physical limitations.  Mental limitations, 
including those experienced by elderly first time computer users with 
normal mental function for their age, require a small number of standard 
control types represented in consistent ways (as a rough rule of thumb, 
you should be able to describe how to use and recognize them on a single 
hand written page).  I rather suspect that "advanced controls" means 
anything but that!

David Woolley
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