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Re: Invisible elements for additional link text

From: Christian Biggins <cbiggins@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:54:27 +1000
To: Vivienne CONWAY <v.conway@ecu.edu.au>
Cc: "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <F69C6D83DFEA4187962B07367778B6A6@gmail.com>
Hi Vivienne, 

Because designers are anally retentive and very picky. It was purely from an aesthetic point of view. I personally wanted the text visible and that was the task that I had assigned. 

While I agree with you that links should be descriptive and that its for able bodied people as well as disabled, this information on the site we are working on is clearly visible and context is apparent. I personally see this as very much a 'grey' area - its perfectly accessible now to both visually impaired (with assistance) and non visually impaired. 

I'm not sure what happened to the other email I received about this, but I cant find it now. It was regarding dragon software. I havent tested this with anything yet and the basis of my argument is from the info on the Webaim site. 

I am not swinging one way or the other, just trying to obtain peoples opinions. 

Thanks! 
 
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Christian Biggins


On Thursday, 13 September 2012 at 2:36 PM, Vivienne CONWAY wrote:

> Hi Christian
> 
> I'm trying to figure out why they would make the additional information invisible. It's not just about accessibility for screen reader users. What was their rationale?
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Vivienne L. Conway, B.IT(Hons), MACS CT, AALIA(cs)
> PhD Candidate & Sessional Lecturer, Edith Cowan University, Perth, W.A.
> Director, Web Key IT Pty Ltd.
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> Subject: Invisible elements for additional link text
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I requested one of our designers make our 'read more' links more descriptive to include things like 'read more about article title' and his response was to have;
> 
> '<span>Read More <span class="invisible">about topic title</span></span>'
> 
> I know that the WebAIM guys are ok with invisible text for adding additional information for descriptive technologies, I was wondering what everybody elses opinions were.
> 
> Reference; http://webaim.org/articles/gonewild/#hidden
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