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RE: Question re self-referencing links [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

From: Arch, Andrew <Andrew.Arch@finance.gov.au>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:15:40 +1100
To: Russ Weakley <russ@maxdesign.com.au>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <008FC8994AEE7F49BF9BA9F12852CFB55ED7EFB13B@PCW9FINMB03.mercury.network>
Russ,

I think you could also look at the Link Purpose SC:
- 2.4.4: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#navigation-mechanisms-refs 
- 2.4.9: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#navigation-mechanisms-link

both of which link to G91: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/G91 

G91 states "The description lets a user distinguish this link from links in the Web page that lead to other destinations and helps the user determine whether to follow the link" and I think one can argue that reloading the current page in same position does not "lead to other destinations" and thus could create confusion for some people in the way you and others have described - one could reasonably expect to go to another page about the same topic.
 
Definitely a situation I try and get people to avoid.

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Weakley [mailto:russ@maxdesign.com.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 9:05 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Question re self-referencing links

> Also unexperienced users might wonder, whether the link, that obviously does nothing, is broken or not.
> 
> Not to link an entry in the menu at least can help you to make clear to the user, where he is. That is WCAG 2.0-relevant:
> 
> Location: Understanding SC 2.4.8: http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/navigation-mechanisms-location.html

> 
> Gentle enough? ;-)
> 

Indeed. I'm feeling the love! <grin>

The link you provided led to this interesting bit of info:

G128: Indicating current location within navigation bars
http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/G128


Example 3 states:

"When the link is activated to change the contents of the page, the selected link within the navigation bar is disabled since the result of following this link is the Web page currently being displayed."

This seems to suggest that any link associated with the current page (whether it appears wrapped around the page heading, or it appears in the primary navigation) should ideally be removed (in the case of page headings where it is not needed at all) or disabled (in the case of navigation where you may still want the item to appear but not as a link), to avoid confusion and help users determine their location.

So, it appears to be an example technique only - rather an a "Success criteria"... which is a little "softer" than I had expected.  :)

Thanks all!
Russ





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