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RE: UPDATE suggested alternatives to accessible version

From: Carla <carla@accesscapable.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:17:48 +0100
To: "'Adam Cooper'" <cooperad@bigpond.com>, "'Priti'" <priti.rohra@gmail.com>, "'Roger Hudson'" <rhudson@usability.com.au>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
You're idea is really the simplest solution indeed, and many websites would
be much more accessible with some 'switch to basic' layout. Especially those
that use a content management system.

The complexity comes when these websites are not static, or use advanced
features including flash. During a review of quite some websites, we
encountered a few of which the layout is too complex to redesign for

For the target group of cognitive disabled (and dyslexia, and...) many
websites fail regarding their visual clutter, information structure and
content. How to solve that, is difficult to answer (writing alternative


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Adam Cooper [mailto:cooperad@bigpond.com] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 17 februari 2012 23:59
Aan: 'Priti'; 'Roger Hudson'
CC: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Onderwerp: RE: UPDATE suggested alternatives to accessible version

"disable friendly version" = "render friendly version inoperative". . I
recall a ludicrous incident attempting to navigate a revolving door with a
white cane only to be 'assisted' by a well-meaning passer-by who directed me
to the "disabled door" to which I unthinkingly replied "but if it's
disabled, how will I get through it?" 

perhaps providing a compliant version using an appropriate stylesheet might
be preferable to providing an entirely distinct version? In which case,
something like 'switch to plain view' or view 'basic layout' might suit as
this is the purpose of the link?

universal design is the holy grail , however, as many have already pointed

My two cents worth ... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Priti [mailto:priti.rohra@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:26 PM
To: 'Roger Hudson'
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: UPDATE suggested alternatives to accessible version

Hi Roger,

Thanks for bringing this up! It is an interesting one & it would be fun to
know what alternatives people can come up with.
Also good you clear the question up as people's replies were going in wrong

Anyways how about "Disable friendly version"? I know its bit too long for
designer's liking but I am sure they can come with some icons to make it
attractive and brief.
Yes, I know people will argue that accessibility is not only for the
disabled but it is the disabled who benefit from it the most & 'disable' is
the term widely known to people.

Would love to know what others think about this?

Thanks & Regards,
Priti Rohra
Freelance Accessibility Consultant
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pritirohra
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Hudson [mailto:rhudson@usability.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:58 AM
To: 'David Woolley'
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: UPDATE suggested alternatives to accessible version

Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions. But it seems from some of the responses that the
intention of my original post wasn't clear enough. I have explained this to
a few respondents off-list, but I thought it would be useful to say more on
the list.

I am mainly interested in the term "accessible" (and "accessibility") and
not whether or not an accessible version of something should be provided. Of
course, like everyone, I agree that wherever possible content should be
accessible and providing an alternate "accessible" version avoided. 

However, sometimes it is not possible to make something accessible and WCAG
2.0 allows for an alternative accessible version to be provided in these
cases. This could be, for example, because an advanced feature of a web
content technology, which is not sufficiently supported by ATs, is being
used. Or, at the other extreme, an application that is to have a short
web-life is dependent on a legacy system that it is difficult or impossible
to make sufficiently accessible. 

My concern is that this alternate version is often accessed via a link which
includes the word "accessible". This might be meaningful to people who work
in the web industry, but I know many general web users don't know what it

Also, many sites contain a page which describes the accessibility features
of the site, or which provides information to help people who might have
problems accessing the content (e.g. how to use the browser to increase
text-size). Once again, the link to this page often includes the words
"accessible" or "accessibility" and I know from my research (and that of
other people like David Sloan) that many web users don't understand what
this word means. If you are interested in this in relation to older web
users, I touched on the subject in a presentation I gave at CSUN last year -
slide and transcript on my blog
-elderly-csun-slides-and-transcript/  (slides 45 and 46).

In short, the aim of my question is to see if we can come up with some
alternatives to the words "accessible" and "accessibility" that are likely
to be more meaningful to the wider public.



-----Original Message-----
From: David Woolley [mailto:forums@david-woolley.me.uk]
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:20 PM
To: Roger Hudson
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: any suggested alternatives to accessible version

Roger Hudson wrote:

>  From previous research I know that many web users do not understand 
> what the term "accessible" means when it comes to web content. This 
> appears to be particularly the case with older users of the web.

"easy to use"

The real problem though is that web pages are advertising and in advertising
you must not use anything that has negative implications about your product.
Saying that there is an easy to use version of the site implies that the
main site is not easy to use (which while probably true, is not something
that the designer would want to admit, even to themselves).  To be suitable
for advertising copy, the words chosen must not suggest that there is
anything wrong with the main site.

"accessible" is a positive word, but sufficiently jargon that it doesn't
signal anything to the general public whilst still allowing someone trained
to use such pages to find it.

David Woolley
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