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RE: WCAG 2 fails to directly address major accessibility issue

From: Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <coordina@sidar.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:35:00 +0200
To: "'David Woolley'" <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <02d801cc8e42$60f1b220$22d51660$@sidar.org>
Hi David and all,

>From my point of view, the issue is that there is an ideal font size. What
to most may be appropriate and is the default size offered by browsers, I
find it too big, just rude. Some people need to expand the size and some
others need to reduce it.

It is true that most people are unaware that your browser provides
mechanisms to modify certain aspects of the presentation. And even less that
they can define a personal style sheet. Therefore it is important to have a
page to report on the accessibility features of web Shiite. And on that page
we can inform the user of these mechanisms or we can link to pages that
explain, for example "Better Web Browsing: Tips for customizing your
computer": http://www.w3.org/WAI/users / browsing. (This is in English, in
Spanish at the site of SIDAR also offered that information for many years.)

Best,
Emmanuelle

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Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo
Directora de la Fundación Sidar
Coordinadora del Seminario SIDAR
www.sidar.org
email: coordina@sidar.org / emmanuelle@sidar.org



-----Mensaje original-----
De: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] En nombre
de David Woolley
Enviado el: miércoles, 19 de octubre de 2011 9:06
Para: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Asunto: Re: WCAG 2 fails to directly address major accessibility issue

Felix Miata wrote:

> 
> In either case, all except users of old IE versions can _resize_ the 
> page's text. Resizing is a defense, which like most defenses, is 
> unnecessary to utilize in the absence of offensive behavior 
> (disrespect of browser defaults).
> 

I see a lot of pressure on this list to move the responsibility to the user
and thus remove WCAG rules, based on the argument that modern browsers allow
people to "defend" themselves.  A lot of that pressure seems to succeed, so
I would suggest the trend is away from what you (and I) would want on this
point.

That pressure generally ignores the fact that many users will never learn
how to use the "defence" mechanisms, and that using them is a major
inconvenience for the users.

Yes.  Zooming brings the pain of panning, as well as the need to keep
setting/adjusting it for each new site, and text size overrides more often
than not result in overlapping, or nearly overlapping text.  I have that
using Mozilla on Linux, either as a result of sites being too reliant on
exact rendering, or because I have used Mozilla's minimum font size
settings, although with fairly conservative values.



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