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RE: Web video accessibility

From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:44:28 -0700 (PDT)
To: <accessys@smart.net>, "'EmbedPlus'" <ext@embedplus.com>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <00f901cc5c4c$e8d4ecc0$ba7ec640$@edu>
accessys@smart.net wrote:
> the test view was
> linux Ubuntu 8.4 and the browser was lynx
> and the propaganda was all the stuff saying how great Embed was.
> actually I didn't expect it to work, how do you get a basically video
> format to work in an audio/text system of viewing.
> Bob


Can you tell us what the point was that you were trying to make, exactly?
Your appreciation of, and for, open-source software such as linux and lynx
is well known, but in all honesty you put the folks at EmbedPlus through a
minor "panic" when you said that their system didn't work.

We all know that video cannot be played in lynx - and you certainly knew
that. What was the point?

As for "propaganda" - it is a site that is promoting their tool: one that
they have come forward with, with a certain sense of "purity of heart" -
the developers want to do the right thing and are asking if they are going
in the right direction. They came to the "experts" for feedback and
comments, not to be made fun of or used as some kind of pawn in your own
personal mission. Cliff Tyllick's response is the kind of useful feedback
they sought, and serves as an example of how we all should be interacting
with those that come to the accessibility space: open, welcoming and
willing to help, guide and instruct.

Using language such as "propaganda" and sending the EmbedPlus developers
on a wild goose-chase does very little to offer encouragement to the
larger development community, and simply perpetuates the notion that
"those accessibility people" can't be satisfied no matter how hard other's

I for one am embarrassed that you chose to respond the way you did, and
hope that the folks at EmbedPlus will not use your response as a measure
of how the majority of the online accessibility community interacts with


John  Foliot
Program Manager
Stanford Online Accessibility Program
Stanford University
Tel: 650-468-5785

Co-chair - W3C HTML5 Accessibility Task Force (Media)

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