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Re: Antw: Re: Layot tables

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:12:13 +0100
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Cc: Mario Batusic <Mario.Batusic@jku.at>, "wed@csulb.edu" <wed@csulb.edu>, Jon Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>


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On 22 Jul 2011, at 09:06, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mario 
> 
> Role=presentation has no effect upon the content of an element it only removes the role of the element it is applied to and any required children of that element.
> 
> <ul><li><h1>heading text</h1></ul>
> 
> Becomes 
> 
> <h1>heading text</h1>

When role=presentation is added to the <ul role=presentation>

Because the <li> is a required child of ul so it inherits the presentation role, but h1 is not so its role is unaffected.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22 Jul 2011, at 06:16, "Mario Batusic" <Mario.Batusic@jku.at> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jon!
>>  
>> If so, than the people from the HTML5 development have not understood the role=presentation from the wai-aria spec. It serves for signaling to the ATs that the contents of an element is a pure presentational thing. For this reason hide the screen readers the complete content of such an element from the users.
>> Ciao     Mario
>>  
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>> >>> Jon Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> schrieb am 21.07.11 um 21:02 in Nachricht <D3BF41A6-282D-4E97-9231-8FF781AAC87A@ssbbartgroup.com>:
>> At one point the border attribute and role=presentation were in the draft as differentiators. 
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > I was reading the editors draft of HTML 5, and they don't seem to have
>> > a deterministic way to distinguish layout tables from data tables.
>> > Did I just read that wrong?
>> > 
>> > Wayne
>> > 
>> 
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