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Re: internet usage by people over 60

From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:37:49 +0100
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To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

At 15:50 1/03/2011, Petra Kubina wrote:
>Hi everyone
>
> > the more you know your visitors and what problems they encounter to
> > more you can build better websites.
>
>And the more user agents can be improved - I think it is a big usability
>problem that many people do not know the power of their local software
>like browser, pdf-reader and of course their operating system.

This discussion reminds me that Internet Explorer versions 1 through 
3 had a toolbar button to change the font size; see the screenshots 
at <http://www.favbrowser.com/internet-explorer-collection-screenshots/>.
These buttons were removed in later versions of Internet Explorer. 
The devil's advocate knows why.
I have never seen a similar button in Firefox.
Opera had a zoom widget next to the URL widget until version 7; I 
guess slick design is more important now. (In recent versions of 
Opera, you need to know how to modify the browser appearance to get 
the zoom widget back.)

Best regards,

Christophe



>Petra
>
>
>Am 01.03.2011 14:36, schrieb Lucica Ibanescu:
> >
> > Hi Roger and everyone, I am not an elder (barely over 30, no vision
> > problems) and I also enlarge text on webpages (sometimes) or zoom them
> > completely - so John, you shouldn't be upset on Roger touching this subject
> > - the more you know your visitors and what problems they encounter to more
> > you can build better websites. And building them with elders in mind will
> > definitely help a lot more - like me or my friends who need to 
> increase text
> > too or are bothered by poor usability, contrast or IA.
> >
> > Lucica
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf
> > Of Roger Hudson
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:04 AM
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: internet usage by people over 60
> >
> >
> >
> > Apologies to anyone who might have been offended by the title of my paper.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am over the age of 60, and I am doing the research with another "oldie"
> > who is now retired after working in IT most of his life. We now 
> spend a fair
> > bit of time working with other older/senior/mature/elderly people helping
> > them use the internet. I most certainly don't assume people over 60 don't
> > know how to use ICT, but also, just because we have been using 
> computers and
> > the internet for several decades, I don't think we can assume everyone else
> > uses these technologies in the same way or even knows how to use them.  For
> > example, one of the issues we have been exploring in our more recent
> > interviews is the question of whether or not a person knows how to increase
> > the size of text on web pages, and most of the respondents don't appear to
> > know how to do this. In an earlier post I wrote about how one of the
> > interviewees prints out a web page and then enlarges it on a photocopy when
> > faced with text on a site which he has to read, but which is too small for
> > him. Several other respondents when faced with the same problem 
> have told me
> > that they copy and paste the text into a Word document and then enlarge it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf
> > Of John Colby
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2011 8:24 PM
> > To: Roger Hudson; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: internet usage by people over 60
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of us elderly (born 1950) have been using the web and 
> writing web pages
> > since 1993, since the web came into being publicly in the UK, introducing
> > web usage into companies where we have worked, and now are in change of web
> > teaching for Faculties and Universities and lead on web development.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not alone.
> >
> >
> >
> > The title of your paper would encourage me not to read it.
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > John Colby BA PGCE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org on behalf of Roger Hudson
> > Sent: Tue 01/03/2011 09:02
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Subject: internet usage by people over 60
> >
> > For those who might be interested I have posted the results of the recent
> > online survey about how and why people over the age of sixty use the
> > Internet and mobile (cell) phones.
> > 
> http://www.dingoaccess.com/accessibility/mature-age-ict-users-online-survey-
> > results/
> >
> >
> >
> > I will be discussing the results of this research in a paper, 
> "Improving Web
> > Accessibility for the Elderly", which I am presenting at CSUN 2011 on March
> > 16. http://www.csunconference.org/index.cfm?EID=80000300
> > 
> <http://www.csunconference.org/index.cfm?EID=80000300&p=380&page=scheduledet> 
> ail&LCID=4676&ECTID=0> &p=380&page=scheduledetail&LCID=4676&ECTID=0  The
> > paper will also outline some of the issues older web users have with font
> > size and colour, and canvass various options for how they might be
> > addressed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roger Hudson
> >
> > Web Usability
> >
> > Ph: 02 9568 1535
> >
> > Mb: 0405 320 014
> >
> > Email:  <mailto:rhudson@usability.com.au> rhudson@usability.com.au
> >
> > Web:  <http://www.usability.com.au/> www.usability.com.au
> >
> > Blog: www.dingoaccess.com
> >
>
>
>--
>TEXTknoten
>
>Petra Kubina,


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