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Re: fixing real problems that people encounter?

From: Chris Beer <chris@e-beer.net.au>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:00:09 +1100
Message-Id: <93AF970D-D87C-4218-AC02-D6EBFDB3FE3E@e-beer.net.au>
Cc: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "site-comments@w3.org" <site-comments@w3.org>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
To: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Hi all

On 11/02/2011, at 2:52, Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Ian,
> 
> having taken the time to read your blog,
> I agree that this does appear to be a belated start in the direction I proposed to you and Tim, some years ago,
> hpwever,
> 
> it may not be sufficient to suggest "there are no fees to participate"
> 
> given the status of members, and W3C staff, whom are presumably paid in the main by someone  to participate;
> it seems to me at least, fanciful to imagine that representative members of the general public, might volunteer through "Community Groups",
> and if they were nonetheless to participate, hardly on even terms.
> 

I think it is more than realistic to believe that many people will volunteer their time - both at the group level and personal. I only need to point to the open source development model for evidence in this regard. People like to give, and people like to connect.

> One may note that WAI IG has been seriously distorted over the  years by similar issues,
> and a recent SVG IG  failed due to lack of participation.

Is it perhaps then not an issue of whether people are will to volunteer, but rather an issue of people and groups not being aware that they are all free to participate?

I must strongly disagree with the WAI example however - based purely in my own experience, the terms of involvement are very much equal - quite simply

> Most damning in my opinion, is the W3C obsession with the document model,
> and the related failure to recognise the popularity of games,
> and their vital rĂ´le in helping us model the complex data and threats we face in the modern world.
> 
> regards
> 
> Jonathan Chetwynd
> http://www.peepo.com
> 
> 
> On 1 Feb 2011, at 15:25, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> 
>> I most recently blogged about this in September:
>> http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/09/one_web_day_and_w3c_community.html
> 
> 
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