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RE: More than one h1 tag

From: Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:14:59 +0100
To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20091202161459.M25636@ieee.org>
TITLE is page-related meta data; it is not part of the page content. H1 is
part of page content and clearly visible as such. When a JAWS user views the
Heading List a clear relationship can be determined between H1 and other Hn
elements. It does not provide means to determine the same connection between
title and page headings.

Kind regards
Harry

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From: "Sonia" <sonia@sensorystore.co.uk>
To: "'Harry Loots'" <harry.loots@ieee.org>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>,
<mwvirant@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:11:02 -0000
Subject: RE: More than one h1 tag

> Wasn't Micheal's point that what you are deeming the role of the H1 
> tag is actually the role of the Page Title?  
> 
> In relation to assistive technologies would this make sense?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sonia
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] 
> On Behalf Of Harry Loots Sent: 02 December 2009 09:17 To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: Re: More than one h1 tag
> 
> Ironically, Michael, the point perhaps more clearly illustrates why there
> should be 1 H1 per page. A website is made up of a collection of 
> webpages in the same way as a book is made up of chapters. The 
> webpage is the chapter - it takes on the parent title (H1), and 
> every other title (H2-H6) on this page
> (chapter) should relate directly to the parent title (H1), otherwise 
> it should be better to split the page into multiple pages. 
> 
> Kind regards
> Harry
> 
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Michael Virant <mwvirant@gmail.com>
> To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Sent: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:15:04 +1100
> Subject: Re: More than one h1 tag
> 
> > My view is that the web page TITLE is being conflated with the web page's
> > one or more H1 tags in this topic.  Just as a book has one title it
> > typically has several chapters.  Hence a web page should have one 
> > title and as many H1 tags as is necessary to convey the same 
> > structure.  Then within in chapter (section with heading H1) there 
> > may or may not be the need to order future sub headings (H2) all 
> > related to the H1 above it.
> > 
> > The alternative - to have only one H1 followed by one or more H2, H3 
> > is disorientating for all users as it is an artificial 
> > representation of the data.  For example if the second section 
> > (under a H2) of a document bears no relation to the first section 
> > (with H1) then semantic markup forces the relationship of the second 
> > section to be a child of the first section when there is no such
> elationship.
> > 
> > Michael Virant
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