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RE: Question about Headings (Succesion Criteria 1.3.1, 2.4.1, 2.4.6, and 2.4.10)

From: W Reagan <wreagan1@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <976274.44919.qm@web111618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Phil and John, as it stands my structure is very similar to the way that that John has suggested. The only difference in John's e-mail template and my structure is that I do not have any sub-heading in my lists. 

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu> wrote:

From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
Subject: RE: Question about Headings (Succesion Criteria 1.3.1, 2.4.1, 2.4.6, and 2.4.10)
To: "'W Reagan'" <wreagan1@yahoo.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, "'Christophe Strobbe'" <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 10:02 PM

There is a confusion here.  All of the ‘Volumes’ listed below would be (should be) at the same level of heading. The use of “which” heading is open to discussion, but what you *should* have is something more like this: 
(<h 1>the Entire Collection “Name” [sic]</h1>) 
<h 2>Volume 1</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 2</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 3</h2>
<h 2>Volume 4</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 5</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 6</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 7</h2> 
<h 2>Volume 8</h2> 
…and further, if required: 
<h 2>Volume 1</h2> 
    <h 3>Topic 1 of Volume 1</h3> 
    <h 3>Topic 2 of Volume 1</h3> 
    <h 3>Topic 3 of Volume 1</h3> 
<h 2>Volume 2</h2> 
    <h 3>Topic 1 of Volume 2</h3> 
    <h 3>Topic 2 of Volume 2</h3> 
    <h 3>Topic 3 of Volume 2</h3> 
This hierarchal structure is extremely important for overall document comprehension and is also used (aggressively) by screen reading technology to facilitate inter-page navigation. 
John  Foliot 
Program Manager 
Stanford Online Accessibility Program 
Stanford University 
Tel: 650-862-4603 
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Vice Provost for Student Affairs 

From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of W Reagan
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:59 AM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; Christophe Strobbe
Subject: Re: Question about Headings (Succesion Criteria 1.3.1, 2.4.1, 2.4.6, and 2.4.10)

Take a look at the following site http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol4/html_no9.htm. If they used headers "Volume 6" and "Volume 5' are a big list. My list is bigger where the text information "might have" seven volumes. Each has its own header (h1 for volume 1, h2 for volume 2. The question is how do I start with "Volume 7"? 


Note: I recently discovered that 2.4.10 also has an issue with headers.. 


At the moment I have it set up so


Volume 1=h1

Volume 2=h2

Volume 3=h3
Volume 4=h4

Volume 5=h5

Volume 6=h6

Volume 7=h1

Volume 8=h2


Is Volume 7 and 8 set up correctly. Note: Netmechanic is partially similary to my site.


In reality the do not use headers.


If they did, what would be the correct set up? 
--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> wrote:

From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: Question about Headings (Succesion Criteria 1.3.1, 2.4.1 and 2..4.6)
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:22 AM 

[removed all CC'ed lists and persons, since this question is appropriate for WAI-IG]

At 06:26 11/08/2009, W Reagan wrote:
> I have a document that contains a big list. The list has been divided into headers (h1 through h6).

Could you explain more clearly what you have in mind?
You can have more than six *headings* (not to be confused with "headers"), but HTML provides only six *levels of headings*..
Is your problem with the number of headings or the number of levels?

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe

> However, the question I pose is this. My document requires more than six headers.
> Currently for what "should be" the seventh header, it h1, and the eight header is h2. This process is currently repeated for every six headers until the document get completed.
> Do my headers fail Succesion Criteria 1.3.1, 2.4.1, and/or 2.4.6. "Even if" it fails only one out of the three criteria's, how can it be fixed so it does not violate the other Succession Criteria's associated with headers?
> What should I do starting with what should be h7 to pass all the Succesion Criterias?
> I am not sure if my situation has already passed all three Succession Critierias associated with headers.

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