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Re: accessibility supported questions

From: <Accessys@smart.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:59:43 -0500 (EST)
To: Harry Loots <harry.loots@ieee.org>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0903310858040.29501@fzneg.arg>

closed systems are required to be acceessible within the closed
system, AND if the adaptive methods are provided by the owner of the
closed system.

Bob

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Harry Loots wrote:

> Ramón
>
> > - Any technology that is only supported in
> > Windows can not be considered as "accessibility supported", because
> > Windows is not free, so if users with a disability are forced to buy
> > Windows, there is an additional cost for people with disability. The
> > same could be aplicable to Mac platform, of course. - Any technology
> > that is only supported by JAWS and/or Window Eyes can not be
> > considered as "accessibility supported", because these programs are
> > really expensive, meaning that there is an additional cost for a
> > disabled person.
>
> Except in a corporate environment, where the platform, technology, etc, will
> be a known
>
> Kind regards
> Harry
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Ramón Corominas <listas@ramoncorominas.com>
> To: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
> Sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:54:07 +0200
> Subject: Re: accessibility supported questions
>
> > Hi, Phill.
> >
> > If I understand your answer, it doesn't matter for compliance if
> > there is assistive technology that is able to interpret that
> > content. So the content can comply, but nobody can access it? If
> > there is no screen reader capable to consistently render the content,
> >  it can not be considered compliant, I think.
> >
> > For me, "Accessibility Supported" should be understood as "there are
> > enough user agents (including assistive techonolgy) that can render
> > the content, and there is enough variety of user agents of this kind
> > that have no additional cost for a person with a disability,
> > compared to a person without a disability". Of course, in this
> > context, perhaps "enough" can be only one unique free user agent
> > that works on a free operating system.
> >
> > This has the following consequences:
> >
> > - Adobe PDF, Adobe Flash and WAI-ARIA can not be considered as
> > "accessibility supported" until they are supported by user agents
> > and assistive technology. - Any technology that is only supported in
> > Windows can not be considered as "accessibility supported", because
> > Windows is not free, so if users with a disability are forced to buy
> > Windows, there is an additional cost for people with disability. The
> > same could be aplicable to Mac platform, of course. - Any technology
> > that is only supported by JAWS and/or Window Eyes can not be
> > considered as "accessibility supported", because these programs are
> > really expensive, meaning that there is an additional cost for a
> > disabled person.
> >
> > Perhaps I am missunderstanding the concept of "accessibility
> > supported"...? What do you think about it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ramón Corominas.
> >
> > Phill Jenkins escribió:
> > > Seems like your are testing the screen reader's support of the form,
> > > not the form itself.  Did you report your inconsistencies to the
> > > developers of the screen reader?
> > >
> ------- End of Original Message -------
>
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