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Re: Axis attribute

From: Michael Stenitzer <jenoe.stenitzer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:39:09 +0100
Message-ID: <18c042be0811280039t24fa3dbbra2567b15ca5e824f@mail.gmail.com>
To: "WAI Interest Group" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>

i'm sorry, but i have to disagree strongly.

we are preparing accessible websites for people and not for standards.
as long as there are ways to make a certain information accessible,
usable and understandable with techniques that are supported by
browsers and AT we should certainly choose those techniques.

eg. the LONGDESC attribute does not help anybody (and i also see
potential usability problems with this). therefore: don't use it but
place a visible link for a detailed image description right after the

concerning the AXIS attribute: there are other standard conformous
ways and techniques to make a table accessible. use those. (BTW:
usually the best one is to simplify a table structure as much as
possible. this also helps without a screenreader. you might be
surprised how difficult it is for many users to understand tables).

just my 2 cents, michael

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Joachim Andersson
<joachim.andersson@etu.se> wrote:
> The usefulness is not really the issue. I understand that this might seem
> strange, but developing according to W3C standards does not only concern the
> time being, but the time to come. Hopefully Jaws and other tools used to
> convey web based information will improve in upcoming versions, but at this
> time they do not fully conform to W3C recommendations and specifications.
> Think of it this way. If web developers produce services according to W3C
> specifications and recommendations, one day Jaws and other tools will render
> web based content as it was meant to be rendered. That is when we get the
> real use of it, and now is the time to develop this way, in order not to be
> one step behind when Jaws reaches that goal.
> Best regards,
> Joachim Andersson
> Web Accessibility Specialist
> 2008/11/27 Ramón Corominas <listas@ramoncorominas.com>
>> Dear all:
>> I've been reading a lot about the use of "axis" attribute to categorize
>> and group cells, but I also have read that its support is almost inexistent.
>> Does anyone know if this attribute is going to be supported in the near
>> future? or perhaps in the distant future...? <wink>
>> I've tested it with JAWS and nothing happens, so I'm confused about its
>> real usefulness.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ramón.

Michael Stenitzer | WIENFLUSS information.design.solutions
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